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re: UPDATE- NOW INDICTED- Cincy police chief says video of cop shooting man is "not good"
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:47 pm to TigerHam85
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:47 pm to TigerHam85
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He pulled the gun AFTER he didn't obey the command.
This is why it's his fault. No, the guy shouldn't have been killed, but he was because of his own actions, causing the LOE to make a mistake and use excessive force. However, it all began with the guy not obeying the officer.
Dude I was in law enforcement...um you don't pull a gun in that situation. That's why no cops are backing this young punk.
People disobey commands ALL THE TIME. You don't pull guns out.
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:47 pm to REG861
This is bad. Nothing to defend here. He over reacted and caused the death of someone. I don't know how anyone can defend this shooting.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:47 pm to meauxjeaux2
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My speculation is that he saw the perps right hand go towards the front of the console where the ignition switch was. I'm thinking the cop thought he may have been reaching for a weapon and the cop unholstered his weapon at that time.
Your speculation is hilarious. I'm sure the guy kept a tiny gun hidden in his key hole. The cop then reached for the ignition because he thought the guy had a gun in that same key hole. Just a really tiny gun.
Then he shot the guy point blank in the head because he thought he'd gotten himself stuck in the unarmed mans car by his own mistake and didn't want him to drive off.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:47 pm to terd ferguson
Yes, terd. The man evidently put it in drive and started to drive off with half his skull missing.
Tough to believe, but it's got to be true.
Tough to believe, but it's got to be true.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:48 pm to bayou2003
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Dude I was in law enforcement...um you don't pull a gun in that situation. That's why no cops are backing this young punk.
People disobey commands ALL THE TIME. You don't pull guns out.
THANK YOU.
Disobeying commands does not warrant a gun being pulled. That's an absurd notion.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:48 pm to oleyeller
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sometimes idiots get whats comming to them. This can be a good example to people out there. Comply with the officers
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:49 pm to TheCaterpillar
quote:you are being obtuse. It's not very flattering.
I'm sure the guy kept a tiny gun hidden in his key hole.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:49 pm to Gulf Coast Tiger
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This is bad. Nothing to defend here. He over reacted and caused the death of someone. I don't know how anyone can defend this shooting.
And another cop saying it is indefensible.
Keep it coming TigerHam and meauxjeaux
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:49 pm to meauxjeaux2
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do you know why he had it out? Can you tell us for how long he had it unholstered?
What does this have to do with the price of tea in
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China?
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My speculation is that he saw the perps right hand go towards the front of the console where the ignition switch was. I'm thinking the cop thought he may have been reaching for a weapon and the cop unholstered his weapon at that time.
NOW we're talking next level shite. That's at least 3 hoops you jumped through to make this shooting justified.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:49 pm to meauxjeaux2
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My speculation is that he saw the perps right hand go towards the front of the console where the ignition switch was. I'm thinking the cop thought he may have been reaching for a weapon and the cop unholstered his weapon at that time.
Sorta like the SC officer that shot a man at the gas station after telling him to get his license. Thought the guy had a weapon...guess officer forget he told the man to get his license. Thank god the officer didn't kill that man.
Not everybody is armed. You don't shoot because you THINK someone is reaching for a weapon. Guy wasn't hostile or cursing. Didn't even seem threatening. Guy was calm, voice calm, soft toned.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:49 pm to TigerHam85
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Yes, terd. The man evidently put it in drive and started to drive off with half his skull missing.
Tough to believe, but it's got to be true.
Crazy shite, man...
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:50 pm to meauxjeaux2
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you are being obtuse. It's not very flattering.
You don't know what obtuse means. Its not very flattering.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:50 pm to Coach72
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sometimes idiots get whats comming to them. This can be a good example to people out there. Comply with the officers
Or get shot.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:50 pm to TheCaterpillar
His actions caused it to happen. There's no disagreeing with that and that's my only point. Had he gotten out of the car and obeyed all commands, got shot point blank, then yes it's the officers fault. However, you disobey the law, you could very well get killed. Whether that's right or wrong, it's still your fault for not listening to the person in control.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:50 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Disobeying commands does not warrant a gun being pulled. That's an absurd notion.
You do pull you gun sometimes when you get that gut feeling, but this guy obviously had his finger on the trigger.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:50 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Just watched the video and wow just wow. The guy looked drunk and driving without a license on him but he was complying with the officer's commands and there was zero justification for the cop to shoot him. The defense attorney would have to do a slam dunk job to convince me that was not murder after seeing that video.
Just another example of why cops should always wear a body cam. Body cameras have protected multiple innocent cops and the body cam got this arsehat indicted and hopefully convicted.
Just another example of why cops should always wear a body cam. Body cameras have protected multiple innocent cops and the body cam got this arsehat indicted and hopefully convicted.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:52 pm to bayou2003
When did I ever say the LEO used proper force?
All I said was the guy is dead because he didn't listen to the LEO, making his death his fault.
All I said was the guy is dead because he didn't listen to the LEO, making his death his fault.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:52 pm to bayou2003
quote:wtf are you talking about?
Not everybody is armed. You don't shoot because you THINK someone is reaching for a weapon. Guy wasn't hostile or cursing. Didn't even seem threatening. Guy was calm, voice calm, soft toned.
I was answering his question as to why the gun was unholstered for a traffic stop
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:52 pm to WeeWee
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Just watched the video and wow just wow. The guy looked drunk and driving without a license on him but he was complying with the officer's commands and there was zero justification for the cop to shoot him. The defense attorney would have to do a slam dunk job to convince me that was not murder after seeing that video.
Just another example of why cops should always wear a body cam. Body cameras have protected multiple innocent cops and the body cam got this arsehat indicted and hopefully convicted.
And the cops lied in their report. Sheesh.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:53 pm to meauxjeaux2
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you are being obtuse. It's not very flattering.
We call that "meauxjeaux2-Ing" around here.
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