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re: Ukraine Revolution live stream
Posted on 1/23/14 at 4:31 pm to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 1/23/14 at 4:31 pm to GEAUXmedic
quote:So the women locked in the hospital. Former Prime Minister.
One of the parties, which was once headed by Tymoshenko, has repeatedly been elected to Parliament and is largely discredited, but still elected.
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 4:31 pm to GEAUXmedic
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They no longer have any control in the riots.
Not good.
like how certain news outlets call them riots and others call them protest.
Looks like we will have plenty to watch all weekend.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 4:39 pm to Zed
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Tyagnybok talks about the demands they made to Yanukovych: Immidiate release of all rioters, extra session of verhovna rada, cancellation of those new laws, government resigning, returning to older constitution. He says that government is ready to release all arrested people, if there will be created a buffer zone at Grushevskogo street. He says if people agree to ceasefire, the general attorney of Ukraine is going to make a statement about release of the prisoners and future persecution of rioters. But he says that there are NO GUARANTEES. Also he says that the decision is up to all of people out there.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 4:44 pm to Jarlaxle
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But he says that there are NO GUARANTEES. Also he says that the decision is up to all of people out there.
Yeah, it's up to the people
Posted on 1/23/14 at 4:51 pm to drewnbrla
OH shite...
People on the #EuroMaidan have voted to stop negotiations with the government. via @EuromaidanPR
People on the #EuroMaidan have voted to stop negotiations with the government. via @EuromaidanPR
Posted on 1/23/14 at 4:51 pm to drewnbrla
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With Russia offering $10 billion in funds to the troubled nation this morning, and Ukrainian capital markets in disarray over the anti-anti-Europe protests and ongoing riots, Stefan Karlsson offers an alternative take on the "people vs dictator" meme - especially in light of the fact that Yanuckovich is supported by a large part of the population (specifically in the eastern and southern parts of the country).
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In most Western media outlets, this is portrayed as a struggle between the people and a dictator allied with Vladimir Putin. However, what they forget is that while, President Yanukovich somewhat authoritarian, he is supported by a large part of the population.
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More specifically, Yanukovich is very popular in the eastern and southern parts of the country, but very unpopular in the western and north central parts of Ukraine. This geographic divide is illustrated by this map showing his support in different parts of Ukraine in the latest presidential election.
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The pro-Yanukovich areas are essentially the pro-Russian parts of Ukraine. Here the Russian language is largely prevalent with a significant part of the population considered to be "ethnic Russian". These regions also have strong trade ties with Russia.
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The anti-Yanukovich areas are thus more or less anti-Russian. They speak only the Ukrainan language and have little or no ties with Russia-and wants to keep it that way,
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The only sensible solution for this dilemma is to divide Ukraine.
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his solution isn't entirely unproblematic as there are areas which are themselves divided between anti- and pro-Russian supporters and as many Ukrainian nationalists insists that the country shouldn't be divided. But the current structure which will leave one half of the country feeling oppressed by the other half will continue to be a disaster.
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Of course, the real question is... where are the natural resources?
LINK
Sorry if too long to read!
Posted on 1/23/14 at 4:57 pm to GEAUXmedic
This is going to be a shite fight over the next few months/years. The three prongs making up the protestors have competing interests and they're all anti current government. What a mess.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 4:58 pm to Jarlaxle
Who is their Abraham Lincoln?
This post was edited on 1/23/14 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:00 pm to Jarlaxle
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The Ukrainian Government Is Now Mass Texting Protestors With Warning Messages
this website is always on top of developing issues around the world. But them just posting this 2 days after it has happened just shows how much the rest of the world is out of touch with what is going on!
LINK
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:09 pm to Jarlaxle
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In most Western media outlets, this is portrayed as a struggle between the people and a dictator allied with Vladimir Putin. However, what they forget is that while, President Yanukovich somewhat authoritarian, he is supported by a large part of the population.
However, what they forget is that a large portion of Germany also supported hitler.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:14 pm to drewnbrla
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:15 pm to Jarlaxle
@TarasDenysenko Tiagnybok is visibly disappointed at Maidan's decision to break out of negotiations.
?@TarasDenysenko Down on Maidan Tiagnybok is talking with the people, claims that opposition did what it could in negotiations
?@TarasDenysenko Down on Maidan Tiagnybok is talking with the people, claims that opposition did what it could in negotiations
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:23 pm to GEAUXmedic
looks like they're getting ready for war
This post was edited on 1/23/14 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:23 pm to Jarlaxle
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Sorry if too long to read!
I posted that in two lines last page.
Basically: Eastern half is Russian, Western is Ukrainian.
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:28 pm to TN Bhoy
So when the dust settles, the world will have two separate countries? Ukraine & East Ukraine?
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:29 pm to TN Bhoy
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Translation of what Tyagnybok said while being interviewed at espreso.tv stream: "we wanted to reach some agreements with the government in these long hard negotiations we had. After this day people will not listen to anything that government will offer them. People are dissapointed and very emotional now. We've tried to keep protests peaceful as long as we could, but it coulndn't last forever, so we'll be with people 'till the end, hoping there will be no more blood".
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:31 pm to LakeCountryRed
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So when the dust settles, the world will have two separate countries? Ukraine & East Ukraine?
Nope. Both sides need to have Kyiv. It's really complicated, but Kyiv is for all intents and purposes the Slavic Mecca.
This post was edited on 1/23/14 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:32 pm to GEAUXmedic
quote:Those pussy cops are getting wrecked if they go in there. Is that a second tire wall they're building?
looks like they're getting ready for war
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:33 pm to TN Bhoy
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Basically: Eastern half is Russian, Western is Ukrainian.
Kinda like Georgia with South Ossettia it sounds like
Posted on 1/23/14 at 5:33 pm to Zed
Correspondent at espreso.tv made a report about people building new barricades closer to Zhovtnevy palace and noted that an attack of Berkut could be expected in the next few hours.
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