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re: Tulane School of Medicine placed on probation by accreditor amid allegations of racism
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:32 am to Cosmo
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:32 am to Cosmo
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Correct, by admitting a minority with lower scores, they are essentially taking the position away from someone else who has higher scores and "earned" their position. It's horse shite.
Higher scores don’t equate better doctor… they equate better test taker. Especially since the MCAT and tests like that don’t really test on content you learn or expected to directly apply in med school.
In fact some people who score very high are TERRIBLE at relating to actual people.
Some people are bad test takers, but very brilliant, and if they have evidence to support giving students with interesting backgrounds a second look to see why scores might be low despite seeing intelligent, then they should. Sure, some may be a gamble or struggle to find support they need because they may have other drama in their lives, but the more diverse a group is the more likely the scenario will be beneficial than harmful.
Plenty of people get into schools for different reasons. You’ve seen the BS with the rich kids getting into schools by lying, and by donations. But if a kid fails out, they fail out.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 9:34 am
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:40 am to Cs
If it went solely off stats, majority of the docs would be Asian. Wouldn’t be many white doctors either. Out of the non-Asians, It’d come down to who can afford prep classes. Standardized test performance is almost solely based on how many questions you’ve done. If you can afford to pay for more questions, and if you have the luxury of having no other expectations of you besides studying all day—you’ll do better.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 10:11 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:43 am to mdomingue
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Many still would probably be more understanding if some was to account for the lack of opportunities within certain communities if you are talking about admission to college initially and help within the framework of your studies while an undergrad. Even financial assistance in grad school would seem OK, I would think The issue is the admission of people into fields that require more than competency in order to protect safety, health, and life. That should solely be based on merit with affirmative action only applied as a tie breaker.
Many times that is how it is applied. Or it could just trigger an automatic review of their file more deeply, to see if it suggests they actually would have score better if it weren’t for XYZ Like working, etc. After all, we are talking about just 2% of med students who are Black. It’s not acceptance en masse. Plenty qualified individuals are out there— score usually just don’t reflect their intelligence. Most do very well. You have individuals who’s test scores more correlate with their abilities because they had all resources available and you have those who’s scores don’t correlate with abilities because of lack of resources. That’s why you can accept those who you have data to support that if given the same resources they’d do just as well as the person who tested higher.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 9:48 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:49 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Dr. Princess Dennar, who is Black
I never would have guessed.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 10:05 am to TheHarahanian
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None of this affects the school’s ability to teach medicine. Accreditation should never have been in question because of allegations of racism, or even actual racism.
It does when it affects the learning of those individuals affected. Some of the complaints had to do with the treatment of residents too.
Plus, if you got racist people teaching medicine, then are likely teaching their ways even if it’s subtle. And it definitely would affect the way you treat patients. Let’s say a racist doctor was teaching residents “what to look for”, but it was based on racist things.
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