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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:42 pm to
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So you don't believe NATO, or the U.N.?

OK, your stance is noted.

Serious question.

Do you think those 2 organizations are neutral, altruistic parties with no geo-political influences or agendas?
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:43 pm to
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Do you think those 2 organizations are neutral, altruistic parties with no geo-political influences or agendas?
Serious answer: I will side with them over Russia, China, and Belarus 100 times out of 100.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 6:44 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:45 pm to
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Serious answer: I will side with them over Russia, China, and Belarus 100 times out of 100.

To borrow your line - answer the question (and don't tell me you did, because you didn't).
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:48 pm to
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To borrow your line - answer the question (and don't tell me you did, because you didn't).
No I don't think so. But if we are currently choosing sides in regards to who I think I should trust more, Russia, China, and Belarus? I will side with NATO and the UN 100 times out of 100.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:49 pm to
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No I don't think so.

So it's completely possible that they would lie about the situation on the ground to serve their self interests just like Russia would, right?
Posted by PhillyTiger90
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:51 pm to
I’m sure one of our 3 letter agencies had something to do with it
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:51 pm to
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So it's completely possible that they would lie about the situation on the ground to serve their self interests just like Russia would, right?
Sure, it's possible.

I've made my stance known, and so have you. I'm good with mine, and again, I'll stand by the UN, USA, and NATO 100 times out of 100 when it comes to Russia, China, and Belarus.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:54 pm to
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Sure, it's possible.

It's almost a certainty.

Don't believe everything you're told by these people. These are the same people that told you that Trump was a Russian agent and a personal spy for Putin. Just remember that.
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:56 pm to
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Don't believe everything you're told by these people. These are the same people that told you that Trump was a Russian agent and a personal spy for Putin. Just remember that.
OK. I will. My stance on the current issue still stands.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 6:56 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 6:58 pm to
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Don't believe everything you're told by these people

He still thinks Saddam would have used Sarin gas on DC if we didn't invade lol. The Russians and Chinese were right about that one.
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:00 pm to
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He still thinks Saddam would have used Sarin gas on DC if we didn't invade lol. The Russians and Chinese were right about that one.
Hopefully upgrayyed is adult enough not to respond to this bullshite.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:11 pm to
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upgrayedd


You’re of the opinion that Russia won’t invade further into Ukraine, right? I started reading from my last post and I’m confused with all of the chatter.

You have a very grounded view of geopolitics. Just trying to grasp your opinions on the situation without getting into a flame war.
Posted by caleb07
Member since Dec 2018
779 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:11 pm to
Sounds like a false flag operation to set the stage for Russian invasion.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:16 pm to
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Hopefully upgrayyed is adult enough not to respond to this bull shite.

You literally just said you'd believe your own government 100 times out of 100 over the Russians and the Chinese. Only one of these countries argued for the war in Iraq. Was that a good idea?
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:28 pm to
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You literally just said you'd believe your own government 100 times out of 100 over the Russians and the Chinese.
Our own government, NATO, and the UN in this particular situation? 100 times out of 100 times I will side with them.

quote:

Only one of these countries argued for the war in Iraq. Was that a good idea?

Nope, it wasn't. That has nothing to do with Russia and this particular situation.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 7:47 pm to
To make such a blanket statement that you will trust the UN and NATO over Russia 100% shows you how little he knows about any of those entities
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:21 pm to
Bruh. Russian parliament has already voted to recognize 2 parts of Ukraine as independent Sovereign Republics.

That's like calling your neighbor asking him if he wants a taco and neighbor says what? Then you knock on his door with a couple of tacos and then proceed to throw him out his house and force him to live on the street. You did give him one last meal so that makes it okay.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 8:22 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39350 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:29 pm to
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That's like calling your neighbor asking him if he wants a taco and neighbor says what? Then you knock on his door with a couple of tacos and then proceed to throw him out his house and force him to live on the street. You did give him one last meal so that makes it okay.


Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34319 posts
Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:36 pm to
This thread is full of politards telling you that Putin is really a great guy and maybe he has a point. But they got these ideas from Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon, and they have the gall tell you THEY are the free-thinkers with no agenda. Yea OK sure. Never thought I’d see the day when so-called conservatives sided with Russia. Weird times.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 8:37 pm
Posted by Palantir
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Posted on 2/17/22 at 8:44 pm to
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To make such a blanket statement that you will trust the UN and NATO over Russia 100% shows you how little he knows about any of those entities

Just when I thought you could be an adult...

In this particular situation is not making a blanket statement.
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