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re: Today is the 79th anniversary of the beginning of the bloodiest battle in human history

Posted on 8/23/21 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 4:19 pm to
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Stalingrad, Midway, and the Battle of Britain were the three most crucial battles of the entire war.






First and second El Alamein. If the Brits lose Egypt, they lose contact with India and it falls to Japan. England becomes wholly dependent on American convoys for food and fuel. Germany suddenly has all the oil it can use and a shortcut to the eastern front.

Some would say the Battle of the Atlantic was the decisive battle of the war but I consider it a campaign or its own theatre of operations rather than a single battle.

This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6334 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 4:39 pm to
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Darth_Vader

Very fine summation. Kudos.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24066 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 4:40 pm to
Yeah, but the russians wouldn't have accomplished anything without our huge supply of everything.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46065 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 4:42 pm to
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Goering’s absurd proclamation that the Luftwaffe could supply 6th Army


Did the Fat One ever promise anything and followed through? He said his Luftwaffe would handle things at Dunkirk, too.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104245 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 4:50 pm to
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Imagine going into a battle knowing that you would most likely die soon. I know I couldn't do it.






Three stages:

It can't happen to me

It could happen to me unless I'm careful

It will happen to me and there's nothing I can do about it

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41697 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 4:53 pm to
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2. OKH decision to place “allied” armies on the flanks of 6th Army was mostly due to a lack of options. The Italian, Hungarian, and Romanian armies were not capable of spearheading or really even taking an active role in a rapid mechanized advance, which was the main goal of Army Group South with their dive to the Soviet oil fields in the Caucasus.


The irony of the entire drive to the oil fields is that if taken it would deny the oil to the Russians, but the Germans would not have gotten much HP out if it. The Russians wrecked their installations and even the little oil the Germans did capture could hardly be sent back to German refineries.

It was fools gold.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71955 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 7:20 pm to
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Goering’s absurd proclamation that the Luftwaffe could supply 6th Army


Did the Fat One ever promise anything and followed through? He said his Luftwaffe would handle things at Dunkirk, too.


Hitler should have learned his lesson about him in 1940.
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