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To refugium or not to refugium?

Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:03 pm
Is it a good idea to put a refugium in a sump? I am just trying to figure out if the pros outweigh the cons
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:16 pm to
What are you going to put in it..?

ETA: Try this too
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:17 pm to
make them an offer they can't refugium
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:34 pm to
I don't live in Louisiana
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

I don't live in Louisiana



That would explain why you are on TigerDroppings looking for aquarium advice
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

That would explain why you are on TigerDroppings looking for aquarium advice


What are some good resources I can go to?
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

What are some good resources I can go to?



Google the pros and cons...

I have never used anything other than canisters 2-3x larger than recommended...I am sure there are local/state sites just like the LARC that I posted..

Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 2:44 pm to
Reefcentral was one that I used to frequent when I had saltwater tanks. Haven't had them tho since I lost it all after Katrina. As for the Question I have never ran them...
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

I have never used anything other than canisters 2-3x larger than recommended...I am sure there are local/state sites just like the LARC that I posted..


So you are a canister filter guy? Do you sump or not?
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Do you sump or not?


Nope..Filters for the last 15 years..I have seen my share of Fluvals come and go
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 10/13/14 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

Nope..Filters for the last 15 years..I have seen my share of Fluvals come and go


I will take it you have a freshwater setup... do you do live plants?
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:00 am to
quote:

I will take it you have a freshwater setup


Nope..Plenty of saltwater tanks fun filters

quote:

do you do live plants?


I do corals
Posted by Moonflower
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:06 am to
quote:

make them an offer they can't refugium


Posted by Mahootney
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:50 am to
A good Refugium with cheato will help remove excess nutrients from your system, but when you consider the size of the tank vs the size of the refugium in the sump, it's not very effective (like using an eye-dropper on a house fire).

The refugiums that I've seen be successful are stand alone, have a fair amount of volume, use a lot of live rock to add extra filtration to the system, and use some macro algae. It's not a silver bullet, but it does help reduce your bioload if done correctly.

Because most people don't have a dedicated sump room to store an extra refugium and frag tank, they typically don't use them. Now, if you want to do it in your sump for aesthetics, to grow pods and other food supplements for your DT, or to help reduce micro bubbles ... It's perfectly fine for that. But like I said earlier, it won't have much of a benefit in helping reduce your bioload.

With all that said, I've seen plenty of systems set up both ways. It really is just a personal preference.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

A good Refugium with cheato will help remove excess nutrients from your system, but when you consider the size of the tank vs the size of the refugium in the sump, it's not very effective (like using an eye-dropper on a house fire).

The refugiums that I've seen be successful are stand alone, have a fair amount of volume, use a lot of live rock to add extra filtration to the system, and use some macro algae. It's not a silver bullet, but it does help reduce your bioload if done correctly.

Because most people don't have a dedicated sump room to store an extra refugium and frag tank, they typically don't use them. Now, if you want to do it in your sump for aesthetics, to grow pods and other food supplements for your DT, or to help reduce micro bubbles ... It's perfectly fine for that. But like I said earlier, it won't have much of a benefit in helping reduce your bioload.

With all that said, I've seen plenty of systems set up both ways. It really is just a personal preference.



That was an excellent answer.

If size and room are at a minimum perhaps the op should consider a biopellet reactor. (depends on size of DT)
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