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re: Three Arkansas officers suspended and under investigation after video shows use of force
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:03 am to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:03 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Was he? The video started in the middle of the interaction. How long had them been wrestling with him?
So because the guy was fighting back it’s ok the grab his head and repeatedly smash it into the concrete?
It doesn’t matter how long he’s been resisting, that action is never acceptable and always an egregious abuse of power.
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could see a situation where they had been struggling with him for 5 minutes and we starting to get tired.
So that makes it ok for the cops to repeatedly slam his head into the concrete?
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Wether you want to accept it or not it’s a life or death situation. I’ve seen videos of a guy wrestling with a couple cops and he grabs their gun and kills one.
I know. Which is why I’m not anti-cops and start from a pro-police angle when viewing these videos.
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Again, I’m not defending their actions. Fire them.
You sure as shite seem like it when all I’ve ever argued in this thread is that these cops (really only one) need to be charged
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:03 am to pistolpete23
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The man in the video has been identified as Randal Ray Worcester, 27, of Goose Creek South Carolina. He was taken to a hospital with minor head injuries after resisting arrest
Besides resisting arrest what were his other charges?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:05 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Ok how about 1 in a million? There were 10 million arrests last year so there would be 10 incidents like this a year. So I gave you a number. What is your number?
I can confidently say there should be zero incidents LIKE THIS ONE each year.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:07 am to UndercoverBryologist
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At least black people don’t put up with it.
Most of the shite they complain about isn't worthy of it, and the cases that they should care about, get lost. Philando Castile should be a household name, not George Floyd or Michael Brown.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:14 am to Oilfieldbiology
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You sure as shite seem like it when all I’ve ever argued in this thread is that these cops (really only one) need to be charged
No you said there should be zero events like this a year and implied that if there are more than zero events we have a problem
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:15 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I can confidently say there should be zero incidents LIKE THIS ONE each year.
Ok what policies are you going to implement so that there are zero incidents?
How do you know we aren’t at the minimum feasible incidents in an inherently flawed system?
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 10:16 am
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:16 am to WaWaWeeWa
No I didn’t say we have a problem. I said this event, and anything like it are excessive and unacceptable and the officers involved should be disciplined and charged.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:18 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I can confidently say there should be zero incidents LIKE THIS ONE each year.
I wonder how many people have actually done a ride along with cops. Its pretty eye opening. Considering the clientele, they hold it together extremely well.
I deal with Karens daily, if I had to deal with them hourly I would probably not have a perfect record.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
First thing I’d do is charge the cop that repeatedly slammed his head into the concrete.
Second thing is I’d ramp up training for cops to learn how to better control situations like this and control their emotions.
Will it prevent all incidents from happening? No. Will it deter them? Yes. And if these actions lead to better policing, well isn’t that what we all want?
Again, I’m not the person on here yelling we have a massive, endemic, systematic police excessive force/abuse issue. I’m saying what these cops did (mainly one but maybe 2) is unacceptable and they should be punished.
Second thing is I’d ramp up training for cops to learn how to better control situations like this and control their emotions.
Will it prevent all incidents from happening? No. Will it deter them? Yes. And if these actions lead to better policing, well isn’t that what we all want?
Again, I’m not the person on here yelling we have a massive, endemic, systematic police excessive force/abuse issue. I’m saying what these cops did (mainly one but maybe 2) is unacceptable and they should be punished.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I wonder how many people have actually done a ride along with cops. Its pretty eye opening. Considering the clientele, they hold it together extremely well. I deal with Karens daily, if I had to deal with them hourly I would probably not have a perfect record.
In what situation is what the cop that grabbed his head and slammed it into the ground justified? Give me one.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:25 am to Oilfieldbiology
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In what situation is what the cop that grabbed his head and slammed it into the ground justified? Give me one.
Depends on what the dude did.
He punches my balls, no telling what the frick I'd do to him.
With the clientele they have, the laws to enforce we give them, it would be impossible to have a 20 year career and not be called into question one time.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 10:32 am
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:30 am to pistolpete23
The music fits the video. Is he white? move along, nothing to see here.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I wonder how many people have actually done a ride along with cops. Its pretty eye opening. Considering the clientele, they hold it together extremely well.
Yep
And you don’t even need to do a ride along. Just take a walk through central lock up or the psych beds in the emergency department.
These are the people they interact with 24/7
They are being judged by people who sit in an office and answer phones who have an inflated sense of their ability to resolve conflicts with people who can’t be reasoned with or don’t respond in a rational manner.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 10:58 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Again, I’m not the person on here yelling we have a massive, endemic, systematic police excessive force/abuse issue.
Then I don’t have a problem with you
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I’m saying what these cops did (mainly one but maybe 2) is unacceptable and they should be punished.
I agree to an extent. But I disagree with them being prosecuted for a crime unless the use of force is egregious. For me that would have to be a situation where the person was complying and doing everything the cops say and suffered some injury as a result of the force.
This guy was clearly resisting. How the cop responded was excessive and he should be fired.
But if you start prosecuting and jailing cops for fighting with someone resisting you aren’t going to have any cops or the quality of cop you get is going to be waaay lower and probably lead to more incidents.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:12 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Besides resisting arrest what were his other charges?
He allegedly spat at someone. So that gets you that long list of charges.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:14 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Ok what policies are you going to implement so that there are zero incidents?
Prosecute cops that beat and bash peoples heads against concrete for attempted murder. Charge those that stand by and let it happen the same. Not rocket surgery.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:18 pm to WaWaWeeWa
You see the cops supporting this behavior, saying they will take out their frustrations illegally on their own for alleged crimes against them. THIS shite IS NOT LEGAL.
You wonder why there is a song frick the Police. You wonder why people cops pigs. You wonder why ACAB even exists. People aren't born hating cops, cops earn their hate.
If you defend these cops I hope you catch a fricking bullet, the world would be a better place.
You wonder why there is a song frick the Police. You wonder why people cops pigs. You wonder why ACAB even exists. People aren't born hating cops, cops earn their hate.
If you defend these cops I hope you catch a fricking bullet, the world would be a better place.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
What a bootlicking twat you've become.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:25 pm to pistolpete23
I had to look for this one. And just as I thought:
"The police were actually wrong for this one."
"Well, it was pretty excessive."
"These guys should be fired."
"When are the we rioting?"
Blah blah blah, deflection detection blah blah blah, deflection.
It was bad. This guy kept his life and they will waste no time punishing these guys. Now go riot.
"The police were actually wrong for this one."
"Well, it was pretty excessive."
"These guys should be fired."
"When are the we rioting?"
Blah blah blah, deflection detection blah blah blah, deflection.
It was bad. This guy kept his life and they will waste no time punishing these guys. Now go riot.
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