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re: The most popular medical conditions that too many people believe they have

Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:01 am to
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:01 am to
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Addiction


Oooh. Opened pandora's box on this one.

I'm not sure where I stand on it. Addiction is certainly real and is hard to break, but it just depends on the will of the person. If they really are ready to change, they will do everything they can (including avoiding bad situations at all costs) to change.

That's different from those who "wish they could change" but aren't quite ready to give up the benefit (whether it be sexual, drug, alcohol addiction, etc.) and avoid any temptations at all costs to truly defeat it.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:01 am to
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5. Depression: 

This upsets me. As someone who suffered with depression since a child I get sick hearing about the 2 day depression cycles of ppl. True depression brings you down like chains. There is nothing but then again everything inside you keeping you from moving an inch.
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:03 am to
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his upsets me. As someone who suffered with depression since a child I get sick hearing about the 2 day depression cycles of ppl. True depression brings you down like chains. There is nothing but then again everything inside you keeping you from moving an inch.



Yes. It is disturbing how trivialized society has made a lot of these conditions by over-diagnosing themselves or doctors pill pushing.

True depression is completely debilitating. It isn't just feeling down in the dumps for a few days or weeks. It's a constant feeling of helplessness.
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:04 am to
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his upsets me. As someone who suffered with depression since a child I get sick hearing about the 2 day depression cycles of ppl. True depression brings you down like chains. There is nothing but then again everything inside you keeping you from moving an inch.




I agree, this one is real. They need to find other ways to treat it than with a pill. All jokes aside, sex and exercise could be used more.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:04 am to
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I mean, if there are actual, physical causes for same sex attraction couldn't there also be the same for other embarrassing fetishes or even pedophilia (as disgusting as it is)?

yes

but it is more psychological-developmental in most areas i'd imagine

things like fetishes are a much easier realm to discuss this b/c they're mostly harmless (when you get into this otherwise, people flip out and turn it into a pedo discussion often...again, it's icky so they revert to the extreme to dismiss conversation)

i believe the current research says that fetishes are male-dominated and come about from a specific age period of boys. i think it's like slightly pre-puberty through the first era of puberty. so like some trigger occurs in this period and that basically sets up your "sex mind" moving forward

and this actually may work with pedophillia, b/c so many offenders were molested within this age range. some insane number of pedos were victims of the behavior so there is a link between the violation and the psychological "break"

i think the latest research on homosexuality is focused on epigenetic causes

i'd imagine legit trans-issues are biological and a testosterone/estrogen imbalance for the given sex
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:05 am to
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. It's a constant feeling of helplessness.

Swimming in a flood. You have no emotion but every emotion. I get nervous talking about it honestly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:08 am to
i consider addiction an obsessive-compulsive style issue with some physical dependency and social selection often involved

the weight of physical v. psychological v. social often depends on the variable being abused. opioids are particularly difficult because our brains evolved to take them and we have specific opioid receptors in the brain. abusing them actually becomes terrible b/c our bodies literally require more opioids for the same feeling due to the receptors changing with abuse. some speeds have a similar "change" in our brains. coke and meth abuse long term can literally re-wire your brain (obviously, not in a good way)

alcohol is the weird one. i'd imagine most alcoholism is based around social-psychological issues
Posted by rantfan
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:10 am to
Yes depression gets too trivialized but I have a theory because of my own experience that there are a lot of people who self medicate because they are clinically depressed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:10 am to
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True depression is completely debilitating. It isn't just feeling down in the dumps for a few days or weeks. It's a constant feeling of helplessness.

the best/worst thing to realize about depression if you are suffering from it, is to understand that happiness is nothing more than a certain level of chemicals being released in your body. depression is just a state where your body is refusing to give you the proper amount of these hormones

it can be good b/c if you're depressed you can grip with that reality and realize it will pass some day and the doom you feel is artificial

it can be bad b/c if you're depressed and realize this, you get into the "what's the point?" discussion that can lead to dark endings
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:12 am to
Good stuff, Slow.

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i think the latest research on homosexuality is focused on epigenetic causes



That's the latest I've heard as well, but still nothing definitive.

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so like some trigger occurs in this period and that basically sets up your "sex mind" moving forward


This makes sense. It's crazy how some fetishes are so common and some seem to come out of left field.

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d this actually may work with pedophillia, b/c so many offenders were molested within this age range. some insane number of pedos were victims of the behavior so there is a link between the violation and the psychological "break"


This is 100% true. I'm not saying I feel sorry for pedophiles, but a real discussion and research is needed to understand how these psychological "breaks" and things are developed and what we can do to control them.

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'd imagine legit trans-issues are biological and a testosterone/estrogen imbalance for the given sex


It would seem like this would be an easy fix or diagnosis, no? If it's just biological and hormonal, that's an easy fix instead of surgery, etc. I don't believe it is a coincidence that suicide rates are high for trans people (even after surgery). I'm not convinced it isn't a mental disorder.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:13 am to
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fibromyalgia

Whiny white woman syndrome
The only woman I know who has ever claimed to have this is black.
This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 9:14 am
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:13 am to
Most of those are real but way overdiagnosed



My mom "has" fibro so I've been trying to figure out how real it actually is

She also "has" anxiety and depression so so far I'm leaning towards it being bullshite

I do think she has a lot of pain though she just doesn't handle it well



Posted by Isabelle81
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:14 am to
Pharma driven.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:15 am to
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but I have a theory because of my own experience that there are a lot of people who self medicate because they are clinically depressed.

not a theory. 100% fact. esp males

that goes into my comment about alcoholism above

i'd imagine the vast majority of alcoholics are self-medicating from a mood disorder or psychological trauma they don't want to face/accept. alcohol numbs us to a degree (setting up the OCD behavior of "Feel bad, so drink") and often alcoholics surround themselves with other alcoholics and feel normal (the group identification-reinforcement). alcohol also has this nasty results-oriented, self-fulfilling prophecy that leads people to make huge mistakes while drunk, reinforcing their beliefs about [insert negative psychological condition]

it's a nasty, nasty cycle
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:18 am to
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depends on the variable being abused.


I find addiction interesting as well.

The physical symptoms of opioids and other drugs are tough to overcome, let alone the mental "want" for the high that is never good enough.

Alcohol is strange. It has some physical symptoms of withdrawal as well, but not to the same level. But the crave is the same. It truly is different from a lot of other addictions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:21 am to
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This makes sense. It's crazy how some fetishes are so common and some seem to come out of left field.

yeah it's crazy

add in the whole "taboo/dirty sex is good sex" stuff that most people develop and things can get wild

humans, esp males, definitely require novelty in sex. it's evolutionary. that's why men produce more semen when havin sex with a new partner the first time. it's our evolutionary programming to procreate (feels better with new partners). this can get skewed into extreme sexual behaviors, esp if you get enough sex to make it normal/boring

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It would seem like this would be an easy fix or diagnosis, no? If it's just biological and hormonal, that's an easy fix instead of surgery, etc. I don't believe it is a coincidence that suicide rates are high for trans people (even after surgery). I'm not convinced it isn't a mental disorder.

you get into murky existential discussions in this area

the thing with trans-people is that they don't pose a real threat to society. now pedos, for example, post a great threat to society, so we want to regulate them harshly. but if somebody just identifies as a gender different than their sex, are they really causing harm or just making normies feel awkward? assuming these issues are real (anot not just cries for attention), do we really want to spend societal resources on changing theses issues when they don't pose a threat? do we want to deny their true self solely to force them into traditional social roles?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:23 am to
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Alcohol is strange. It has some physical symptoms of withdrawal as well, but not to the same level.

alcohol is weird. it's one of the few that can kill you if you don't detox correctly (i think benzos are the other)

so while it's more of a social-coping addiction, the physical response can be dire. crazy shite

i also think there is a strong possible link between alcoholism and sugar addiction
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:28 am to
Most of that is just bad genetics
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:29 am to
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Most of that is just bad genetics
like being 5'7"?
Posted by makinskrilla
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 9:33 am to
Zero facts to back any of this up. Thanks for playing.
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