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re: The metal in King Tut's dagger was of extraterrestrial origin

Posted on 6/3/16 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 6:39 pm to
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it was given to them by the group that would have the most access to it (perfect logic), which would be ancient travelers through space.

I don't think you know what logic means.

People throughout history have found meteorites even without modern technology. Also, theories need to be falsifiable. If there's no way it can be proven false then it's a conspiracy theory and not a scientific Theory. Conspiracy theories are pretty much worthless to debate.

Considering there's no empirical evidence for "ancient travelers through space" at this time, it's more logical to assume they saw a meteorite crash, looked for it, and found it.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 6:57 pm to
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Considering there's no empirical evidence for "ancient travelers through space" at this time, it's more logical to assume they saw a meteorite crash, looked for it, and found it.
There is a ton of evidence of ancient travelers through space - even if you discount 50% - there is a mass of evidence proving their were ancient travelers through space.

It is far more evident that the ancient Egyptians - who likely (90%) received assistance from aliens to build the pyramids - would have been provided metal by those aliens than the farcical premise that they saw a meteriorite crash (rare) and then decided to extract metal from it.

AND all this just happened to happen in the same area.

There is empirical evidence and that is a fact that some don't want to acknowledge.
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 6:59 pm to
What empirical evidence is there?
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:02 pm to
empirical: based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic

Though I'm a believer that logic evidence is > than empirical evidence, it has been observed that the knife was made from a metal that came from space, it has been observed that this metal is not from the earth and it has been observed that Egyptians were not capable of going into space.

ETA: And, this could be proven false by showing that the Egyptians had a record of meteorite collection which they did not.
This post was edited on 6/3/16 at 7:04 pm
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:22 pm to
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it has been observed that the knife was made from a metal that came from space, it has been observed that this metal is not from the earth and it has been observed that Egyptians were not capable of going into space.

You're presenting a false dichotomy (that either it was given by aliens or the Egyptians went to space to get it). You are discounting the possibility of them discovering a meteorite.

Meteorites large enough to survive the earth's atmosphere can start forest fires and create craters that would make it easier to find.

One problem with the idea that the dagger came from space travelers is that the metal is a primitive iron. Why would the space traveler have a dagger made from low-tec iron in the first place? Why not give them some advanced metal like titanium alloy or something with an advanced molecular structure like graphene or nanotubes?
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:28 pm to
Why did we offer the Native Americans beads and trinkets instead of our best technology?

I suspect the space travelers were smart enough to know that the Egyptians could not make use of nanotubes.
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:29 pm to
I can't tell if you're a dedicated troll or a functioning retard.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:30 pm to
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it's more logical to assume they saw a meteorite crash, looked for it, and found it.


How the frick could you possibly find a fallen meteorite? Like you could search in the general direction where it fell and there would be a crater or something? That's stupid.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:32 pm to
Idk, no meteorite has ever been found in the history of the world. And there's no way the Egyptians could have made some shitty iron dagger from it.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:33 pm to
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Meteorites large enough to survive the earth's atmosphere can start forest fires


In Egypt? keep reaching sheeple.
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create craters 


this ain't the moon, genius, we don't have those. Try again.....
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:39 pm to
We do have meteorite craters. They exist all over the earth.

Where do we not find them? Egypt.

Did other ancient cultures use meteor metal? No.

But, the one that had pyramids, where there is a of SOLID and UNDISPUTABLE evidence of alien assistance, they also have a knife made from meteor steel.

You can continue to be sheeple. I won't. There is no way the Egyptians built the pyramid without at least technical assistance from others, and the same goes for the steel from meteorite extraction.



Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:42 pm to
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Did other ancient cultures use meteor metal? No.
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Beyond the Mediterranean area, the fall of meteorites was perceived as a divine message in other ancient cultures," the researchers write. "It is generally accepted that other civilizations around the world, including the Inuit people; the ancient civilizations in Tibet, Syria and Mesopotamia; and the prehistoric Hopewell people living in eastern North America from 400 BCE to 400 CE, used meteoritic iron for the production of small tools and ceremonial objects."
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:43 pm to
Interesting, but I still know what was going on. I do appreciate your information though.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/3/16 at 7:49 pm to
I'm not a sheep. I'm a skeptic at every turn. Which is why I'm skeptical when I hear someone make an outlandish claim that aliens traveled through space to help the Egyptians build a pyramid made of stone blocks and give them an iron dagger.

You're the one believing everything you hear on Ancient Aliens but I'm the sheep for wanting to see evidence of alien interaction with the Egyptians?

Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 8:17 am to
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You're the one believing everything you hear on Ancient Aliens but I'm the sheep for wanting to see evidence of alien interaction with the Egyptians?


I don't believe everything I hear on Ancient Aliens (I admit I watch the show and have all the DVD's). But, there is a very compelling almost unrefutable case that ancient aliens helped build the pyramids (probably by providing technical advice). This is the ONLY explanation for why every hypothesis about how they were built gets debunked.

So, it is not a stretch, in fact it is perfectly reasonable, the jump to the knife being formed from metals provided from space to the Egyptians by ancient space travelers. It makes more sense that some early culture magically deciding to extract metal from a meteor.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 8:27 am to
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This is the ONLY explanation for why every hypothesis about how they were built gets debunked.


Well that's just crazy.
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 8:31 am to
I'm pretty sure the pyramid blocks were moved by putting them on a floating, levitating fabric that became the legend of magic carpets.

Nothing else makes sense.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 6/4/16 at 8:34 am to
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I'm pretty sure the pyramid blocks were moved by putting them on a floating, levitating fabric that became the legend of magic carpets.

Nothing else makes sense.


You are right about one thing - nothing else has made sense. All pyramid construction theories have ended up being debunked - except for alien assistance.

There is a man who has an alternative theory that might be the only other possibility, but he isn't far enough along yet for the debunk/affirm stage. There was a show about it, can't remember on which network.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 8:37 am to
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You are right about one thing - nothing else has made sense. All pyramid construction theories have ended up being debunked


No. They haven't. The sheer absurd amount of lifelong slave labor everyday for hundreds of years is what built the pyramids using pullies and ramps and shite.

Slave labor has accomplished many many amazing things
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 8:38 am to
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