re: The greatest persons to ever walk the Earth?

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we're not even sure one of those 4 existed

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So all the scriptures and Gospels are wrong? Throw that historical book the Bible away, don't let that propaganda get in the way.

What about father of Jesus?

its not possible to not have a biological father;

Literally -- probably the 5 people with highest body Mass are the "greatest"

Can you email me the answer? hendersons_hands@yahoo.com

Just say you're scared. You've come this far. Just give us the general points. You don't have to get into the nitty gritty details.

Damn, I missed this thread. 7 pages in, I'm sure everything's been said already.

No, but that is always his cop out

What's the point of that if you never try to educate the larger masses?

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What's the point of that if you never try to educate the larger masses?

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Good try baw, I am not falling for it.

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Roughly, most influential or had the greatest direct impact on world history.


That's that I figured. I don't think it would be possible to think all of those guys were great in the sense of "dude I look up to"

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Yea, I differentiate "most admirable" from "great". I mean, if you really look at that list and remove the religious figures, it's pretty much a who's who of the world's greatest killers and/or conquerors and/or most powerful leaders. It is exceedingly rare to be both "great" - at least how I and I think a lot of historians would define such a thing - and an admirable person in your time. Only a handful of those guys - Churchill, Bolivar, Lincoln, maybe Scipio and Cyrus and Bismarck - are actually admirable as people.

But their impact on the world is undeniable. Imagine what the entire world looks like if Ghengis Khan never existed: everything from the Sea of Japan to the Persian Gulf to central Europe would look very, very different. He had to kill 30,000,000 or whatever to do it, but there it is.