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re: The Boeing 737 Max is a grease fire. Boeing’s Edsel

Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:01 am to
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3197 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:01 am to
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Scrap this piece of shite


The 737 is arguably the most successful airliner of all time…

HOWEVER, Boeing is now run by bean counters that tried to squeeze a little too much blood out of that turnip. The MAX was a step too far. Boeing tried their damnedest to trick frick that thing into just being another 737 when it really isn’t.

Watch ”Downfall” on Netflix if you want to get your blood pressure up. It’s definitely slanted against Boeing, but if half the shite in that documentary is accurate, it’s pretty damning.

Shame, because Boeing built the best airliners on the planet for a long time.
Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 3:06 am to
It's certainly disappointing to witness one of the greatest and most innovative American comaniesnin history fall from grace in real time. Frankly I don't think they'll recover. Younger companies with less risk averse and aggressive business strategies will pass then by soon enough.
Posted by AUViclic
Member since Jun 2013
160 posts
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:13 am to
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One factor in Boeing’s apparent reluctance to heed such warnings may be attributed to the seeming transformation of the company’s engineering and safety culture over time to a finance orientation beginning with Boeing’s merger with McDonnell–Douglas in 1997 (Tkacik 2019; Useem 2019). Critical changes after the merger included replacing many in Boeing’s top management, historically engineers, with business executives from McDonnell–Douglas and moving the corporate headquarters to Chicago, while leaving the engineering staff in Seattle (Useem 2019). According to Tkacik (2019), the new management even went so far as “maligning and marginalizing engineers as a class”.

Financial drivers thus began to place an inordinate amount of strain on Boeing employees, including engineers. During the development of the 737 MAX, significant production pressure to keep pace with the Airbus 320neo was ever-present. For example, Boeing management allegedly rejected any design changes that would prolong certification or require additional pilot training for the MAX (Gelles et al. 2019). As Adam Dickson, a former Boeing engineer, explained in a television documentary (BBC Panorama 2019): “There was a lot of interest and pressure on the certification and analysis engineers in particular, to look at any changes to the Max as minor changes”.

Production pressures were exacerbated by the “cozy relationship” between Boeing and the FAA (Kitroeff et al. 2019a; see also Gelles and Kaplan 2019; Hall and Goelz 2019). Beginning in 2005, the FAA increased its reliance on manufacturers to certify their own planes. Self-certification became standard practice throughout the U.S. airline industry. By 2018, Boeing was certifying 96% of its own work (Kitroeff et al. 2019a).
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 12:47 am to
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200mph


that might not do it at 550 mph
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