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re: St. George School System

Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:19 pm to
The city and the school system are two different processes.

1) The City will eventually come first.
The trial will be in April or May.
This will probably end up at the
state Supreme Court.

2) The school system would have to go through a process after that. It will have to go through elections and probably court cases.

3) Funny both sides benefit from their real estate deals. H&E owner will have to go through City of St George Zoning Commission, if St George becomes a city vs the rubber stamps they get now. He does not care about BR. He cares about developing land to make money just like the other side.

4) If St George makes it through the courts this fiasco should show us that the EBRP form of government needs to be changed. Baton Rouge, should have its own government and the parish another. Right now the consolidation of some services while separating others is not working.

Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:19 pm to
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Now opponents are flipping the script after SG organizers smartly drew the lines to include those who want more control over their tax dollars and out of the EBRSS. Now they are playing the race card because intellectually that’s all they have.


First I’ve never once said I was an opponent. I posted facts about the annexations and drawing of the lines. Then was called names, a racist and because I moved somewhere else with a 60% white population I’m a white supremacist. Not one person in this thread has defended their points with facts. Just name calling. Because they haven’t any. I don’t care what happens with St George I just know more than most people of the situation and shared what o knew. People didn’t like it but they couldn’t say I was wrong so the race card and name calling is all they have left. Oh and the GRAMMAR police also got involved
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:21 pm to
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They clearly didn't want to be in St.G.


Opinion and speculation yet earlier it was THEY REQUESTED TO BE EXCLUDED.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:24 pm to
I think the people that know a lot more than you do are smart enough not to show their cards.

It will go through the courts and probably all the way to the Supreme Court.

It will also become a city in time.

This will also open the door to split the city parish form of government up which is what the establishment is really will be afraid of.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18818 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:28 pm to
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Zero topics debated. Just don’t hear what you want so you just call people racist and names because you have NOTHING ELSE.


There's nothing to debate because your opinion is based on ignorance and nothing factual. Your simple-minded self has done nothing but hurl accusations with zero evidence, and then demand others present evidence? Laughable, you are a child and deserve to be treated as such.
This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:30 pm to
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Jonnyrocket


Finally a person that wants to talk and not insult. Yes all your statements I can agree with. Of course money is involved on both sides because no matter which side tells you differently is all about MONEY. But H&E was needed along with womans to make the jump across Airline to open the door for Industrial Plex and Seigen corridors.
As far as the way money is spent that’s a literal endless debate. Could the system be better YES is it worth splitting a parish in two?? That is a debatable topic. Not saying you personally are, but for STG side to say BR is the evil one for worrying about the money as others have stated is laughable. St George is all about the money as well.
Thanks for the civil debate and we agree more than disagree and neither of us called each other names or threw the race card out. It’s nice when adults talk.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
4638 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:32 pm to
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splitting a parish in two??


Is this what you really thing is taking place?
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:35 pm to
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There's nothing to debate because your opinion is based on ignorance and nothing factual. Your simple-minded self has done nothing but hurl accusations with zero evidence, and then demand others present evidence? Laughable, you are a child and deserve to be treated as such.


Did I not speak the truth of the annexations? YES

Did I not speak the truth about the lines being redrawn racially so it would pass? YES

Did I not speak the truth about it being 1000% about money on both sides?? YES

Did I not prove WITH DATA that I in fact live in a more racially diverse area than the new St G area when being accused of being a racist for where I live YES

So please tell me how I’m a child or spreading misinformation. I’ll wait because your strategy of blindly insulting me without using a cuss word is as pathetic as I’ve seen in the thread. You’re no more than a weak minded soul who’s being told facts that you don’t agree with so you can’t prove it wrong so you resort to insults and accusations like a 5th grader. Who last I checked are CHILDREN.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Is this what you really thing is taking place?


It was a figure of speech. But so glad you finally found something I’ve said that you could debate without insults. Good job doesn’t that feel good??
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:40 pm to
All I will say is let it go through the courts.

St George will be a city at the end of the day.

St George will be ok.
City of BR will be ok.
They will have to tighten their belt.

Schools is a different fight.

City parish form of government will be the next topic. It probably will come up to vote to split this failed system up. Would be a bad thing for the establishment, employees which a lot live outside the parish, while the people who live here probably will see better services.

This post was edited on 1/30/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41670 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:53 pm to
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City parish form of government will be the next topic. It probably will come up to vote to split this failed system up. Would be a bad thing for the establishment, employees which a lot live outside the parish, while the people who live here probably will see better services.


The entire system is broken, and government services are handled in different ways causing inefficiencies in areas while itgers flourish.
Look at law enforcement, drainage, and trash pick up; they are neglected. Look at parks and recreation, libraries, council on aging, they are well funded and run surpluses.

These special tax agencies are isolated from the public; who do not vote on those that run these agencies. They seem to operate as they see fit and raise tax rates whether they need money or not.

There’s no mechanism to balance things. BRPD is in crisis and the Library people are constructing extravagant facilities. The parish is flooding, but BREC has millions of dollars in surplus. EBR can’t stripe streets or fix road signs, but COA can build a brand new facility.

You are exactly right.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 7:18 am
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
58160 posts
Posted on 1/30/22 at 12:58 pm to
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So because someone else does it it makes the act any less racist??? Great point you got there.

No, it doesn’t make it less racist, but in order to provide equality - everyone or no one should be allowed. Just like the n-word.

The reason the confessional district was drawn like that was to give blacks more power in the state legislature- so St. George people want to have a little more control over their governing.

Personally, I live in the city of BR. I think the St. George thing should be allowed because it was voted on, and people have a right to do that. Do I think it’s going to be this wonderful utopia of peace with no more taxes, no more flooding, and politicians that will listen - no. But that’s what those residents are choosing.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4120 posts
Posted on 1/31/22 at 12:08 am to
I don’t do rumors. I only do facts. The bull shite your spewing are not facts at all.

You can call me any name you’d like but it’s not going to change what’s going to happen and what I know. The thing is, I’m not some little peon reading the news and basing decisions and thoughts off of that. You’re a hater. You know what happens to haters? It consumes them. Enjoy your miserable life. Be jealous of the new city and enjoy living your racist life.

First, the clerk of court screwed the first petition and I wouldn’t be surprised if he got paid off in some capacity. Fact#1 They had enough signatures for area to hold a vote but were denied.

Fact#2 after the first petition was denied, people in certain areas asked not to be included. These areas were removed because of this and the lack of support for the city.

Fact#3 second petition was successful in the amount of signatures needed to hold a vote and the vote was for a new city.

Fact#4 the racist mayor didn’t like that she was losing power to a large white population and filed a lawsuit with another racist council member to try to void the vote. She literally is trying to overturn the will of the people by filing a lawsuit.

Fact#5- EBR Parish is continuing to spend money that should be set aside for the City of St. George.

My opinion- Once the City is confirmed, I would not give the Parish one penny for any legacy costs. It will be double taxation on the people in the Parish that have already paid into that system. The city of BR is not owed anything from the City of St. George.
This post was edited on 1/31/22 at 12:32 am
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