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re: So if I wanted to start my own protestant church... I'd need, what, a building?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:39 pm to TigerSprings
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:39 pm to TigerSprings
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They deal only with punishments left after sins have been forgiven.
Whoa there pal. You haven't taken a Western Civilization course, so you're not qualified to define an indulgence based on official church teaching!
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:39 pm to TigerSprings
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He's getting mad over unrealized gains of property, art, icons, and cathedrals over the past 2000 years.
Realize them.
Sell them off.
Give to the poor.
ETA this all started because the OP casting stones from a stained glass house.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:40 pm to Adam Banks
quote:lol - give more?
How about instead of investing any surplus of tithes in worldly organizations they invest in human beings and give more to the poor?
Why dont you? We are all called to give to the poor and not to judge.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:41 pm to TigerSprings
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Myth : A person can “buy forgiveness” with indulgences.
Exactly. Unfortunately the Catholic church taught differently at one time.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:43 pm to Adam Banks
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Given its multi billion portfolio it could have done more
Such as? It funds evangelization, churches, schools, and hospitals all over the world, along with adoption agencies, pro-life organizations, homeless shelters, and the list goes on. Can you give concrete examples of what else the church could do?
Also, do you hold Brother Billy Bob from King James Baptist Church down the street to the same standard, even though they likely only make a very small donation to Lottie Moon every year? Should Brother Billy Bob petition his church to sell their infrastructure and their investments so they can do more to help the needy?
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:43 pm to GreenRockTiger
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lol - give more?
When a CHURCH is sitting on billions upon billions in holdings I don’t think it’s an unreasonable thing to say they could have spared some more.
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Why dont you? We are all called to give to the poor and not to judge.
I do should and I will.
To equate personal finances with the financial giving of a church is a take though.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:45 pm to Stitches
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Also, do you hold Brother Billy Bob from King James Baptist Church down the street to the same standard, even though they likely only make a very small donation to Lottie Moon every year? Should Brother Billy Bob petition his church to sell their infrastructure and their investments so they can do more to help the needy?
You understand that this thread is about churches that are in small nondescript buildings and are leasing space right?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:46 pm to Stitches
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It funds evangelization, churches, schools, and hospitals all over the world, along with adoption agencies, pro-life organizations, homeless shelters, and the list goes on.
Great!
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Can you give concrete examples of what else the church could do?
Do 1.6 billion more of the above seems like a start
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:48 pm to Adam Banks
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You understand that this thread is about churches that are in small nondescript buildings and are leasing space right?
Ah, so Brother Billy Bob and King James Baptist get a pass simply because they're not 2000 years old, and their compounding interest on donations over that time period reflect that.
Should Brother Billy Bob instead take a vow of poverty and donate his previous middle-class salary to the poor?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:50 pm to Adam Banks
quote:I think people telling one of the most generous organizations in the world to do more is a take as well
To equate personal finances with the financial giving of a church is a take though.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:51 pm to Slippy
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Honestly a lot of these small hole in the wall churches live by this more than the Mega Baptist or wealthy Catholic Churches. It’s a pretty simple gospel.
But agree there’s a lot of them out there and some of them are scams or snake oil salesman. But the freedom to worship how we please is a huge blessing in the country.
Honestly a lot of these small hole in the wall churches live by this more than the Mega Baptist or wealthy Catholic Churches. It’s a pretty simple gospel.
But agree there’s a lot of them out there and some of them are scams or snake oil salesman. But the freedom to worship how we please is a huge blessing in the country.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:51 pm to Stitches
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Should Brother Billy Bob instead take a vow of poverty
The average wage for a pastor is somewhere between 40k and 75k
Theyre already close to that.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The average wage for a pastor is somewhere between 40k and 75k
Not bad for a 1.5 hour work week. But by the other morons logic, shouldn't they accept less so that they can give more?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:53 pm to Stitches
quote:not all Catholics or catholic priests take a vow of poverty
Should Brother Billy Bob instead take a vow of poverty and donate his previous middle-class salary to the poor?
So why should the Vatican?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:54 pm to Stitches
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Not bad for a 1.5 hour work week
You have a childish view of things adult.
My daughter and her husband put in 30+ hours a week, draw no pay and work full time as Fire Captain and Dental Hygienist.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:56 pm to GreenRockTiger
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not all Catholics or catholic priests take a vow of poverty
The overwhelming majority do. The only exception I can think of in the Latin rite are Diocesan Priests, who only make enough money to barely cover basic necessities.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:57 pm to GreenRockTiger
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think people telling one of the most generous organizations in the world to do more is a take as well
Luke 12:48
From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:57 pm to GreenRockTiger
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vow of poverty
Vows of poverty and chastity are dangerous. Few people can uphold those, and will choose to live a life of secrecy.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 12:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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the Catholic church taught differently at one time.
Maybe you can specify the time then.
Here: LINK
In Johann Tetzel's rebuttal to Luther's claims in 1518, you only have to read the first 3 pages.
It also refers to the Counsel of Constance in 1414 which rebukes individual priests who may have done something along the lines of what you are claiming.
The Catholic Church did not teach this, but it has acknowledged that things of this nature had happened, this is what Councils do, and is also why a Magisterium is necessary, but it NEVER was a teaching of the Church.
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