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re: So if all of Covid started and spread through only a handful of people

Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:23 am to
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
9411 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:23 am to
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But the democrat governors and mayors


Texas and Florida
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:25 am to
It will all be a distant memory on 11-4-2020.
It will make another round in 3.50 years.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:25 am to
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My fiends wife who died was 43 with no pre-existing conditions. So, for her... the mortality rate was 100%
Well it’s a good thing that’s not how the mortality rate of virus works. Some guy yesterday posted about a guy falling off of a 5 foot ladder and broke his neck and died. So for him, standing on a 5 foot ladder was 100% fatal.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
9411 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:27 am to
Yeah those aren't facts... Cases mean positive test and you can't say only .94% contracted unless every single citizen has been tested every day or if an antibody test is available. Which isn't possible...

Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:42 am to
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My fiends wife who died was 43 with no pre-existing conditions. So, for her... the mortality rate was 100%


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Well it’s a good thing that’s not how the mortality rate of virus works. Some guy yesterday posted about a guy falling off of a 5 foot ladder and broke his neck and died. So for him, standing on a 5 foot ladder was 100% fatal.



It was sarcasm...but also the fact that regardless of how the numbers turn out...it can still be fatal. Nobody knows if they get it, how it will turn out. Literally...100% of the time that she caught Covid-19, she died.

Do you think her family takes solace in the fact that less than 1% of other people who catch it have died? I'm sure that her teenage daughters are thinking... "well, Mom is dead, but at least it was from something with a low mortality rate".
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:49 am to
I get it. But you can’t make decisions that affect large numbers of people based off of outlier events. I’m sure the guy who fell of it the ladder’s family takes no comfort knowing he died in a rare way, but that doesn’t mean we should ban ladders.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
18013 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:07 am to
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You missed the whole point. The reason for the shutdown has always been to prevent overloading hospitals. It wasn't supposed to end the disease. If the hospitals have no beds then preventable deaths of all forms will rise.


Hospitals have been laying off staff because they are so empty. Don’t let mainstream media think for you.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6859 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:17 am to
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But the democrat governors and mayors


Texas and Florida



To be accurate, Houston, Dallas,and Austin's mayors are democrat. San Antonio's mayor is independent.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
9411 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:21 am to
Governor? There are more cities than just the metro areas
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
1978 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:32 am to
I know I'm wasting my time here, but I'll do it anyway. Congrats, you successfully trolled me back in. I've already lost, so I'll concede the tigerdroppings upvote points to you.

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Hospitals have been laying off staff because they are so empty. Don’t let mainstream media think for you.


Half true, half false.

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Hospitals have been laying off staff.
True

They're laying off specialists not associated with the COVID fight. i.e. Everyone associated with elective procedures. They have also seen a decrease in demand for elective procedures due to COVID. So, in that sense you're right, THOSE beds are empty.

Anecdotally, I know specialists that have been furloughed for those reasons. Their skills don't translate to what's needed right now. And many aren't qualified to care for COVID paitients. It's more complicated than shoving in a breathing tube and zipping up a body bag.

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because they are so empty.

False

Over 60% of all beds in Louisiana are occupied.

Texas hospitals turning away patients

Florida hospitals max out ICU over coronavirus

And, anecdotally, I've heard from friends that they're turning away patients from some hospitals here in Lafayette because they're out of ICU beds.

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Don’t let mainstream media think for you.


It's not fair to assume that everyone that disagrees with you is brainwashed by media. If you want people to argue with you over the internet, that's a good statement to make. If you're trying to have a rational, adult conversation, it's a foolish tactic. I know you're better than that. Good day sir! Stay safe, wear your mask!
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:32 am to
I believe only 2 or 3 human viruses have been eradicated.

Polio is still around FFS.

HERD IMMUNITY is the only solution.
Via infections or vaccines or a combo.

I favor a combo.
Infections for younger ppl.
Vaccines for at risk.(assuming it arrives and is deemed safe. ).
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
18013 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:32 pm to
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Florida hospitals max out ICU over coronavirus


That’s a flashy headline but that’s 13% of the total hospitals in FL.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6859 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:38 pm to
But where is the majority of the population?
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
22489 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 3:35 pm to
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I get it. But you can’t make decisions that affect large numbers of people based off of outlier events. I’m sure the guy who fell of it the ladder’s family takes no comfort knowing he died in a rare way, but that doesn’t mean we should ban ladders.


By the way...43% of fatal falls over the last decade have involved ladders. There are approximately 500,000 falls from ladders each year (97% from use at home) resulting in medical treatment. 33% of all construction fatalities in 2018 were from falls. Falling off of a ladder and dying isn't super rare.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11231 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 3:36 pm to
Jim Jones would know what to do
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9504 posts
Posted on 7/23/20 at 6:04 pm to
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If it spread all over the world with just a few people, then we would have to get it down to zero for it to not keep spreading. No one wants to talk about this because it basically means at some point we are just going to have to accept that some people are going to get it


I’m not on here daily, but I really don’t see anyone talking about this. The only way to combat this, right now, is the normal human antibodies that are developed by our Immune System.

Are we supposed to wear a mask for years, trusting that the government will eventually come up with a vaccine, and one that’s less harmful than the disease itself?

I just don’t see the rationale in causing another Great Depression by avoiding reality.
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