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re: So, i just learned what an "MRA" is...
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:00 pm to ocelot4ark
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:00 pm to ocelot4ark
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Boys and men have fallen DRASTICALLY behind women in education. Studies point out that female teachers are prone to bias against boys (which leads to overly drugged children because women don't understand boys' need for rough housing or playing cowboys and indians, so they suggest adderall). Cycle manifests throughout their lives, as women are increasingly becoming the vast majority of college enrollees and graduates
Finally, I can say this as a member of the "victimized" group (and this only applies to the quoted part): Personal responsibility and better parenting are the answers here, not government intervention. Stop blaming others. Teachers don't have the power to prescribe and force pills down a kid's throat.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:13 pm to GRTiger
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Finally, I can say this as a member of the "victimized" group (and this only applies to the quoted part): Personal responsibility and better parenting are the answers here, not government intervention. Stop blaming others. Teachers don't have the power to prescribe and force pills down a kid's throat.
No amount of parenting can overcome a teacher's bias against your child (if they're one of the ones that do this - which is most). But I get it, you don't care if your son's teacher holds your son to a different standard or penalizes him for chewing a poptart into the shape of a pistol.
It's incredibly naive of you to dismiss a teacher's role in the medication of kids. Sure, an active, involved parent may not be swayed by a teacher, but there are plenty that have been. Or are you not paying attention? Teacher tells parents something is wrong with their son. Parents, panicked, go to a doctor. They tell the doctor what the teacher told them. Doctor gives boy pills.
So yeah, great parenting can overcome that bias but that's dependent on the parents. Do you feel this country is skewing towards "great parenting?" I don't. Do you trust that these dumbass parents will advocate for their kid instead of going along with the teacher? I don't. Unfortunately, putting the onus on the parents ignores the fact that there are millions of shitty parents. So who suffers? Male children.
How do you imagine figures got this way? Why have men/boys fallen so far behind?
Do you pay taxes? Wouldn't you like some of your taxes to go to programs that support men's causes instead of JUST women's? I'm pretty sure taxation without representation used to be a fairly inciting issue. Do these charts not make you worry for the future of our country, much less the well-being of the male gender?
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:14 pm to southernelite
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An MRA is a white man who insists against all evidence and decency that white men are oppressed and than women and minorities are "revered and privileged."
I wasn't aware of a racial component.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:18 pm to Yat27
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I wasn't aware of a racial component.
They're just regurgitating the typical, hysterical feminist response to MRAs. They tend to take a statement like, "We need to protect the rights of the accused. False rape accusations happen." And respond by saying, "Shut up shitlord! You need to check your white male privilege. Stop blaming the victim. We have to stand with Jackie no matter how much her story falls apart! #standwithjackie"
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:44 pm to John McClane
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Frustrating
I'm pretty proud of myself for that one.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:01 pm to ocelot4ark
I consider myself a feminist (or, if that offends you, an equalist).
This is bullshite. I've read that even preteen boys can't get in because the people in charge are afraid that the boys would either molest or be molested and they don't want to deal with that.
Yeah...most people don't even think that men can be victims of domestic violence, or sexual violence.
A lot of this is left over from a feeling of "Oh, she needs to get out so she can be a good housewife and take care of kids. Women aren't as violent either." Both of which aren't always true...
I acknowledge this, and also say that guys tend to influence this on each other. "You're depressed? Don't be such a bitch, bro! Go to a bar, get drunk and find some strange!"
Yep, this sucks
This is so outdated. Men also have the vast majority of combat roles when deployed also.
Prostates just aren't as sexy. Save the boobies!!!1!
Yep, it's a damn shame. As said before, they don't have shelters to get away from it either.
Even when the woman is a piece of shite...reading about those stories of good guys losing their kids to lazy, neglectful "moms" makes me so sad.
People have lost view of what "innocent until proven guilty" means. I think an accused rapist shouldn't even be named until actually convicted.
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Men represent the vast majority of the homeless in this country, yet homeless shelters very rarely ALLOW men. Only women and children.
This is bullshite. I've read that even preteen boys can't get in because the people in charge are afraid that the boys would either molest or be molested and they don't want to deal with that.
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No/Almost no domestic violence shelters for male victims of DV (40% of victims are men and females are known to be instigators in most DV situations).
Yeah...most people don't even think that men can be victims of domestic violence, or sexual violence.
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Women are sentenced to something like 60% less prison time than men are for the exact same crime.
A lot of this is left over from a feeling of "Oh, she needs to get out so she can be a good housewife and take care of kids. Women aren't as violent either." Both of which aren't always true...
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Men commit suicide something like 4-5x's as often as women. No public cries for better mental health support for men, are there? The President of the US gets up on national TV and whines about a false wage gap...real important stuff. Women's money > man's suicide.
I acknowledge this, and also say that guys tend to influence this on each other. "You're depressed? Don't be such a bitch, bro! Go to a bar, get drunk and find some strange!"
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Repeated attempts to lure women into STEM fields, yet none to lure men into nursing/teaching. You know, because lopsided gender concentration in certain fields is only terrible when it's women who are missing from the equation.
Yep, this sucks
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STILL no requirement for women to register for selective service on their 18th birthday...A scenario which would leave men ineligible for numerous federal programs including financial aid. Not to mention the loss of your voting rights.
This is so outdated. Men also have the vast majority of combat roles when deployed also.
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Less federal funding for health issues that primarily impact men.
Prostates just aren't as sexy. Save the boobies!!!1!
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Women are the presumed "victim" any time a call is made to police (Duluth Model). Doesn't matter if she started it and assaulted you (which has been repeatedly proven that women instigate the majority of domestic abuse), cops will place you in handcuffs as being the bigger threat and take you to jail.
Yep, it's a damn shame. As said before, they don't have shelters to get away from it either.
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Women gain custody in 85% of child custody hearings.
Even when the woman is a piece of shite...reading about those stories of good guys losing their kids to lazy, neglectful "moms" makes me so sad.
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And now the "yes means yes" bullshite that is being funneled down by the DoE, which will make it highly likely that numerous young men will face lifelong consequences based solely on the word of one person who will ALWAYS be above reproach because vagina.
People have lost view of what "innocent until proven guilty" means. I think an accused rapist shouldn't even be named until actually convicted.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:03 pm to Jet12
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I consider myself a feminist.
At first I was like...
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everything you said
And then I was like...
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:04 pm to ocelot4ark
You make good points but you will never get anyone here to agree with you.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:05 pm to BabyrayS2k
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You make good points but you will never get anyone here to agree with you.
He said immediately following a feminist agreeing with, literally, everything I said.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:08 pm to ocelot4ark
See? Not all who consider themselves feminist are bad.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:16 pm to ocelot4ark
Yeah, a lot of it does sound loony because a lot of it is bullshite.
I'm so fricking tired of everyone finding some reason to be the victim, woe is me, poor me. Everybody has problems and obstacles. Are you working toward fixing these injustices or just whining?
I'm so fricking tired of everyone finding some reason to be the victim, woe is me, poor me. Everybody has problems and obstacles. Are you working toward fixing these injustices or just whining?
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:21 pm to Winkface
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Yeah, a lot of it does sound loony because a lot of it is bullshite.
Then it should be easy for you to point out which ones. Go.
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I'm so fricking tired of everyone finding some reason to be the victim, woe is me, poor me. Everybody has problems and obstacles. Are you working toward fixing these injustices or just whining?
I wish I was this simple minded. We get it. You prefer society cater to women.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:26 pm to southernelite
I started talking to a guy today on okc that said he is an intersexual feminist.
I was like wtf. And he said
Sorry. Can't copy texts on the app
I'm not sure if he just says that to get chicks to go out with him. He said he truly believes it. And he's super hot. Not a neck beard virgin
I was like wtf. And he said
Sorry. Can't copy texts on the app
I'm not sure if he just says that to get chicks to go out with him. He said he truly believes it. And he's super hot. Not a neck beard virgin
Posted on 1/30/15 at 6:36 pm to ocelot4ark
homeless shelters? bullshite. Men's health federal funding? bullshite. Domestic violence shelters? bullshite. The suicide stats are true but mental health just isn't talked about period. It's not gender related. You really don't think that men are recruited to be nurses and teachers?
Look, there are inequalities everywhere. There always will be. It just seems to be on overload right time. Everybody has some victim complex to complain about. I'm to the point of tuning it all out.
quote:bullshite.
You prefer society cater to women.
Look, there are inequalities everywhere. There always will be. It just seems to be on overload right time. Everybody has some victim complex to complain about. I'm to the point of tuning it all out.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:51 pm to Jet12
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See? Not all who consider themselves feminist are bad.
Love when I see you in these threads because you view so many things the same way I do.
And of course, I also consider myself a feminist. Even though people are scared of that word.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:54 pm to Paige
Aren't you dating Mr. McSteamy/Mr. Big Doctor exclusively and also having an online affair with me? Why are you on OKcupid like some desperate loser?
Posted on 1/30/15 at 7:59 pm to Commandeaux
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80 pages
and JEAUXBLEAUX paging JEAUXBLEAUX
Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:10 pm to ocelot4ark
You should be. fricking Ms. Gennaro
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