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Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:47 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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especially because he's a retired police captain so he's got some authoritative complex. he had already started arguing with the victim before he went to go talk to management, so he was clearly looking for a confrontation. if he had wanted to, he could have just went and talked to theater management without saying anything to the victim. that's what i would do if i had a real problem with someone in a theater
I agree with all of this
Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:47 am to Topwater Trout
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retiree
meh
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upstanding citizen
maybe, unless he's got other skeletons in his closet. probably wouldnt be hard for the prosecution to find some dirt on him that paints him as less than upstanding.
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and so on will paint him as the victim
good luck with that one. what exactly is he a victim of? assault by buttery popcorn? no one is going to think that is a good reason to shoot someone. it's a far cry from Zimmerman's "he was crushing my skull on the concrete" defense. plus there are so many witnesses, the defense wont be able to just paint on a blank canvas.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:48 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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good luck with that one. what exactly is he a victim of? assault by buttery popcorn? no one is going to think that is a good reason to shoot someone. it's a far cry from Zimmerman's "he was crushing my skull on the concrete" defense. plus there are so many witnesses, the defense wont be able to just paint on a blank canvas.
I agree with you but the defense will try to make him the victim...somehow
Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:49 am to ShrevetownTiger
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Now that I've said that, why can't people understand that it's little things that lead to bigger things?
That's all well and good, but the shooter could have at least waited for the movie to start before going on his rampage.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 10:49 am to ShrevetownTiger
The shooter is 100% to blame here. That he is a retired LEO makes it even worse: he should know better.
Now five lives are ruined or over because of his foolishness.
Now five lives are ruined or over because of his foolishness.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:02 am to ShrevetownTiger
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Now that I've said that, why can't people understand that it's little things that lead to bigger things? Young dude should have quit texting or go out of the theatre to text equal no shooting.
Started to say I can't believe I just read this here, but It's fairly typical.
you know, if sober people didn't drive late at night drunken drivers wouldn't be tempted to hit them.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:02 am to LNCHBOX
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That's all well and good, but the shooter could have at least waited for the movie to start before going on his rampage.
If you read what I wrote you will see that I mentioned both people doing simple things. I wasn't saying one or the other.
I have two daughters, I always made dang sure I didn't put myself into a position to leave my life in the hands of another. My pride didn't get the best of me and I can back down from stupid shite without feeling less of a man. I would also never pull a gun out in a situation like this because I would hope that I can control a situation enough to keep it from escalating to something of this level.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
You didn't read the entire thing either. A simple action from either guy and nothing happens. I'm not blaming the guy, I'm just saying thinking about a situation before you throw popcorn at someone? Come on, really? Does he deserved to get shot over that? Hell no, but wtf?
Btw, I'm going to assume that his wife was thinking better of it because she was trying to pull him back when the guy shot so at least one of them had a cool head, it's really a shame that she couldn't get him to do it sooner.
The old man is at fault for pulling the gun, but so many things leading up to this could have prevented this from happening.
Btw, I'm going to assume that his wife was thinking better of it because she was trying to pull him back when the guy shot so at least one of them had a cool head, it's really a shame that she couldn't get him to do it sooner.
The old man is at fault for pulling the gun, but so many things leading up to this could have prevented this from happening.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 11:07 am
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:07 am to ShrevetownTiger
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I always made dang sure I didn't put myself into a position to leave my life in the hands of another.
Dude, just existing in a world full of idiots puts your life in the hands of others. Everything you do pisses someone off. ]
shite, we've get people threatening violence over less than texting on this board every day. You're never immune to the actions of a lunatic, so don't be blaming victims.
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but so many things leading up to this could have prevented this from happening.
As in every violent act, ever.
This post was edited on 1/14/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Dude, just existing in a world full of idiots puts your life in the hands of others. Everything you do pisses someone off. ]
shite, we've get people threatening violence over less than texting on this board every day. You're never immune to the actions of a lunatic, so don't be blaming victims.
Perfectly put.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
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so don't be blaming victims.
Where the frick was I blaming the victims? I'm was just pointing out where people do things that lead to this and if one or the other just reacts a little differently nothing happens.
frick dude quit getting your panties in a wad.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:09 am to ShrevetownTiger
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Where the frick was I blaming the victims? I'm was just pointing out where people do things that lead to this and if one or the other just reacts a little differently nothing happens.
frick dude quit getting your panties in a wad.
I'm far less than upset. Nothing I read here surprises me anymore.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:10 am to LNCHBOX
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This picture won't help his cause...
Why? Because a guy with a family is not capable of provoking a fight?
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:11 am to constant cough
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Why? Because a guy with a family is not capable of provoking a fight?
It was in response to the shooter's defense team trying to make the shooter the "victim." Sorry I didn't spell it out completely.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:11 am to Tiger in NY
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Good. People texting during a movie should be shot.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 11:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
Well good, I'm glad you're not upset because that was not my intent, I was just trying to show how things get quickly out of control and how just doing anything different wouldn't have led to someone getting killed. I wasn't blaming anyone person or the other.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 12:10 pm to ShrevetownTiger
LINK
No way can he invoke "Stand Your Ground" off this
Veteran and experienced police officer. Why he resorted to shooting an unarmed man I will never know.
He wasnt even allowed to carry it in the theater. Just another senseless killing.
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Voices were raised. Oulson threw a bag of popcorn at Reeves, according to a police report, and then the former Tampa Police Department officer took out a .380 semi-automatic handgun and shot Oulson.
No way can he invoke "Stand Your Ground" off this
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Reeves retired in 1993 as a captain with the police department in nearby Tampa. He was also director of security at Busch Gardens until 2005, CNN affiliate Bay News 9 reported. Police told CNN that Reeves was instrumental in establishing the department's first Tactical Response Team.
Veteran and experienced police officer. Why he resorted to shooting an unarmed man I will never know.
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A list of prohibited items and behavior in their theaters are on the theater website. Among them: no cell phone use, including texting, in the theater auditorium. And no weapons allowed.
He wasnt even allowed to carry it in the theater. Just another senseless killing.
Posted on 1/14/14 at 1:46 pm to Sterling Archer
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I have a good idea about the race of the two parties
You fail
Posted on 1/14/14 at 2:04 pm to LordSaintly
Maybe he thought the guy texting was actually a dog and he felt threatened.
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