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Remember how people used to say "The exception that proves the rule".
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:48 pm
What does that actually mean? I always pretended that I got it but it doesn't really make sense. Can someone give an example?
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:49 pm to OysterPoBoy
It means crawfish prices are going up.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:49 pm to OysterPoBoy
Nothing is absolute, so there is an expection to everything.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:50 pm to OysterPoBoy
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The idiom "the exception that proves the rule" means that an exception to a general statement actually emphasizes the truth of that statement. Here are some examples:
"Most company directors are middle-aged men, but this 28-year-old woman is an exception that proves the rule".
"Dury was the exception that proves the rule that you can't make serious points with funny lyrics".
"Steve O'Keefe has become the exception that proves the rule of cricketers' squeaky-cleanliness".
Honestly, I still don't get it.
I don't get the "proves the rule" part... otherwise they're just ordinary exceptions it seems...
Wiki
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"The exception that proves the rule" is a saying whose meaning is contested. Henry Watson Fowler's Modern English Usage identifies five ways in which the phrase has been used,[1] and each use makes some sort of reference to the role that a particular case or event takes in relation to a more general rule.
Two original meanings of the phrase are usually cited. The first, preferred by Fowler, is that the presence of an exception applying to a specific case establishes ("proves") that a general rule exists. A more explicit phrasing might be "the exception that proves the existence of the rule."[1] Most contemporary uses of the phrase emerge from this origin,[2] although often in a way which is closer to the idea that all rules have their exceptions.[1] The alternative origin given is that the word "prove" is used in the archaic sense of "test",[3] a reading advocated, for example, by a 1918 Detroit News style guide:
The exception proves the rule is a phrase that arises from ignorance, though common to good writers. The original word was preuves, which did not mean proves but tests.[4]
In this sense, the phrase does not mean that an exception demonstrates a rule to be true or to exist, but that it tests the rule, thereby proving its value. There is little evidence of the phrase being used in this second way.[1][2][5]
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:54 pm to OysterPoBoy
Stereotypes exist for a reason and people will always point out when something or someone that doesn't follow the aforementioned stereotype but proves the value of the rule since it is a rare occurrence.
For example: When a team leads the turnover battle and has more offensive yards they are typically the winner but there are exceptions to this and I am sure someone with deep sports knowledge will know the exceptions off of the top of their head.
For example: When a team leads the turnover battle and has more offensive yards they are typically the winner but there are exceptions to this and I am sure someone with deep sports knowledge will know the exceptions off of the top of their head.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:55 pm to OysterPoBoy
As Confucius say, he who sit on jelly donut put arse in jam.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:59 pm to i am dan
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Honestly, I still don't get it.
Thank you brother. Sometimes I feel like I'm alone out here.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:02 pm to OysterPoBoy
Usually, the exception is so rare or seemingly so out of place, it highlights just how "true" the rule actually is. It is so noteworthy that some exception didn't follow the assumed rule, that is a marked occurance.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:06 pm to bad93ex
Like throwing a no-hitter and losing the game
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:07 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Usually, the exception is so rare or seemingly so out of place, it highlights just how "true" the rule actually is. It is so noteworthy that some exception didn't follow the assumed rule, that is a marked occurance.
This is the easiest way to explain it.
A “rule” means it is the norm… what is “supposed” to happen bc it’s what happens most frequently.
When something outside of that norm happens, it’s only noticed bc it’s an aberration. It’s not normal for it to happen.
Therefore, in order for it to be noticed, it proves there actually is a norm or rule to begin with.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:07 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Usually, the exception is so rare or seemingly so out of place, it highlights just how "true" the rule actually is. It is so noteworthy that some exception didn't follow the assumed rule, that is a marked occurance.
I kind of get that but what it actually does is disprove the rule.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:10 pm to LSUGrrrl
Well said, Grrrl.
Hope you're feeling better after the unfortunate stomach issues.
Hope you're feeling better after the unfortunate stomach issues.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:11 pm to OysterPoBoy
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I kind of get that but what it actually does is disprove the rule.
Not really. Unless you operate with the assumption that something can't be a rule of thumb if there is ever a different outcome, which by definition wouldn't be a rule of thumb.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:11 pm to OysterPoBoy
I still remember where I was when App State beat Michigan in 2007. That's what is meant by it
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:11 pm to OysterPoBoy
You wouldn’t even notice something if it wasn’t outside the norm, thereby proving there is a norm or “rule.”
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:12 pm to LCA131
Thanks, LCA
Feeling much better, thanks. Might try to eat something other than a plain baked potato for dinner tonight. It was a rough week.

Feeling much better, thanks. Might try to eat something other than a plain baked potato for dinner tonight. It was a rough week.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:13 pm to LSUGrrrl
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You wouldn’t even notice something if it wasn’t outside the norm, thereby proving there is a norm or “rule.”
Exactly.
Whenver you find an OT poster that isn't 6'3 250 making $3.50M per year, you are so flabbergasted it proves just how normal that is for everyone here.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:15 pm to Aguga
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It means crawfish prices are going up.
that is the rule
the exception is when they go down

Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:21 pm to LSUGrrrl
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You wouldn’t even notice something if it wasn’t outside the norm, thereby proving there is a norm or “rule.”
That makes sense. I'm at peace with it.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 2:23 pm to FightinTigersDammit
It’s inherently confusing, and its use adds no value to an explanation. It’s like saying the better team didn’t win.
I suspect people that use that phrase are the same that will ask….did you not go to the game?
I suspect people that use that phrase are the same that will ask….did you not go to the game?
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