re: Really need to vent, I'm in a dark place

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Stay away from things in which you know little about. AA has helped MILLIONS recover in a TON of different countries.

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I know AA is, or can be, a cult like fairy tale that does NOT work for millions. Why do so many relapse? Oh, maybe because AA is not that good.

Funny how so many need "sponsors" post rehab, half-way houses, multiple rehabs, more sponsors, constant weekly meetings or more if AA is so damn good.

Did you really relapse and potentially lose your family over an LSU football game? Get your priorities straight.

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Why do so many relapse? Oh, maybe because AA is not that good.

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AA is great. It’s not AA it’s the person in question. If the program doesn’t work, it’s because the person doesn’t want it. That’s not a reflection on AA but on the person.

If someone doesn’t want the help, only jail or death will end their addiction. Period.

Please don't get this thread anchored by bickering over whether AA works or not. There is a lot of good information in here that some people need to hear. Thanks

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I never said it was the answer for everyone. I said “millions” and those are great odds for someone looking for help.

And I love that someone with your demeaning post history throws around the word “arrogant” multiple times

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Arrogant is making a claim and showing ZERO hard research to back up that claim. AA may be right for you or someone you know but it is hardly the best or only treatment. It ranked 38th of 44 in one book of research on addiction treatment.

https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Alcoholism-Treatment-Approaches-Edition/dp/0205360645

My original purpose was to say that what worked for others may not be what he needed and he needed to look hard for help in making the right choices.

And I am hardly arrogant. I have as much of the ability to be full of sh--as the next guy. But I do like to at least have some facts in my corner as opposed to your posts.

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Please don't get this thread anchored by bickering over whether AA works or not. There is a lot of good information in here that some people need to hear. Thanks

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Great point.

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You don't need prayers or positive vibes to take ownership for your own poor life choices.

However, I do hope you get your shite together. But only you can change that.

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You need a higher power to stay sober

My first wife left with my kids and thought the same. But I learned you can't make all the things that go with this go away. You just have to make it through one day at a time, and sometimes one hour at a time.

Time will heal, and although should there be a permanent separation, that too will be okay. I have been married 20 years yesterday to a woman that is ten times the one I lost. Not all is perfect with one of my oldest kids, but life's still good.

Force yourself to get out among friends and talk your heart out. Tell those you know and tell them that you will be needing them just to vent, like you are here. You will be going through a myriad of emotions, and you just have to ride those out till you can see the light. Because light is there.

One day the clouds will lift, your burden will lighten, and you will breath again. You may even find that things happened the way they did for the best.

You, do the changes and overcome addictions for you. Then everyone else will benefit from that. You can't make change to please another, only you. Because others are imperfect and if what they do can break your will to overcome issues, then you will never overcome issues.

Take a deep breath and pray a lot, turn to God since it seems you believe in one. Just treat everyone with respect and don't let emotion take over and do things you will regret. Everything will turn out better one day. You can and will stumble, but the KEY IS NEVER GIVE UP!

Just try to make things and do a little better today than you did yesterday. Don't spend time beating yourself up. Just work to improve yourself and your situation a little bit at a time.

Again, work on yourself and do it for you. If it isn't good enough for your current wife, it will be good enough for you and maybe another great woman down the road. Good luck OG, you can make it through.

Regardless of this ridiculous best rehab/recovery option, this thread is a great reminder that sometimes the OT can be serious and have someones back.

OG - Good on you for reaching out and asking for help! That takes a ton of courage. Keep your head up. The OT is sending tons of prayers and good vibes your way. Take the good advice in this thread and apply it, and like one poster said, take it an hour, or even a minute if you have to, at a time. Best of luck.

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One day the clouds will lift, your burden will lighten, and you will breath again. You may even find that things happened the way they did for the best.

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Abslutely. Yep credit what I went through for who I am today.

You fight or run. Overcoming is ne of the most difficult things a man can do. My mental and spiritual state is exactly where I wanted to be my whole life.