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re: powerball odds - help me win my argument - posted pg 8

Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by sugar71
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:44 pm to
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Is there a strategy involved in playing the powerball to ever so slightly increase your odds


At 1 in 300 million odds there is no strategy.

Google "Joan Ginther" she won 3 or 4 scratch off Jackpots in Texas worth about $15 million dollars

She was buying high priced/ big Jackpot tickets in bulk.

There may be some " strategy" ( and luck) involved in what she was doing with scratch offs.

But draw games are random.

I think you'd find Joan Ginther interesting.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 4:46 pm
Posted by tigersint
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:44 pm to
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Your time will be better spent studying English.




Typing hastfully in the hunting blind with gloves on.


Besides, i dont need to learn any more about "liberal arts" from the piss poor english department that gave me professors who did not show up to class because they had a hangover. Engineering is the way to go.
Posted by tigersint
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:46 pm to
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quote: There have never been 6 consecutive numbers drawn in any national or international lottery, at least according to my quick Googling. wait what? you mean with odds like 270 million to 1 those numbers haven't come up for ANY lottery? thats like..mind blown.


So basically, Powerball did not win the Powerball.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 4:47 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:46 pm to
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Can amyone explain mathematically why playing a card with either 3 enen numbers and 2 odd numbers is not betther than playing a card with either 5 even numbers or 5 odd numbers?
Because you're choosing 5 combinations. So while it's less likely that every number will be odd or even, every combination has the same probability. In other words, there are more combinations of a mixture of evens and odds than just evens or just odds.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 4:49 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:51 pm to
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It's kind of surprising that it hasn't happened anywhere in the world, considering 3 consecutives are not all that uncommon.

It probably has something to do with the fact that the process is just "mostly random" and not truly, 100% random. The balls are lined up in the sleeve before they go into the hopper the same way every time, etc.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. You would have to have 100s of millions of drawings just to get a 50/50 chance of that scenario happening.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 4:52 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:52 pm to
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I honestly have no idea what your thing about. You would have to have 100s of millions of drawings just to get a 50/50 chance of that scenario happening.


i weep for the future
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:55 pm to
You would have to have hundreds of millions of drawings just to have a 50-50 chance of any 5 consecutive numbers, followed by the Powerball being next in line happening?

Mind if I see the math on that?
Posted by tigersint
Lafayette
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:56 pm to
Oh. Totally didnt think of that one.


So what you are saying is that there are more possible ways to have all even or all odds than there are to have 3/2 even/odd.

And this makes every possible outcome have an equal chance of happening between
-2/3. 3/2. Even/odd
-1/4 4/1. Even/odd
- 5 even/odd



Is that correct?


It seems that the one with the highest possible selection would be the selection of 2/3. Why is it not?





ETA. Nvm. Just understood what you are saying.

While it is more likely that the numbers will be 3/2 or 2/3 , there is less of a chance that you have the correct combination of them since there are more possible outcomes.

But if you pick all even or all odd, while there are less possible outcomes, if it shows up as all oven or all odd then you have a higher chance of winning the powerball because there are less possible outcomes of all even/all odd. Is this what you are saying?
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 5:03 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:00 pm to
That's not how odds work, and there isn't enough time in the world to down vote all the silly posts here. It wasn't me In fact, in an earlier thread, mj2 said something silly that I took a friemdly shot at, but I gave him an upvote because it made me laugh.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:04 pm to
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That's not how odds work,


odds i was hit by a purple flying bowling ball on the way into work this am ZERO
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:05 pm to
Remind me what you do for a living again?
Posted by tigersint
Lafayette
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:06 pm to
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You would have to have hundreds of millions of drawings just to have a 50-50 chance of any 5 consecutive numbers, followed by the Powerball being next in line happening? Mind if I see the math on that?




1/300 million.


Just pretend that the winning ticket from the first week that the powerball hits is your "quick pick" ticket for the next week. Odds are 1/300 mill that it happens again after it already " happened " the first time
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:06 pm to


would you agree or disagree the odds of being hit by a flying purple bowling ball are about the same as winning the mythical powerball?
Posted by tigersint
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:09 pm to
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would you agree or disagree the odds of being hit by a flying purple bowling ball are about the same as winning the mythical powerball?




Odds are pretty high if im the one throwing it

Jk
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:10 pm to
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odds i was hit by a purple flying bowling ball on the way into work this am ZERO




I weep for the present.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:11 pm to
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You would have to have hundreds of millions of drawings just to have a 50-50 chance of any 5 consecutive numbers, followed by the Powerball being next in line happening?

Mind if I see the math on that?
So there are 292,201,338 possible combinations. The of a combination NOT happening are (292,201,337/292,201,338).

Therefore, to figure out the probability of 50/50 the equation is: (292,201,337/292,201,338)^x=.5

So taking the logarithm of each side to better isolate x I get x*(log(292,201,337/292,201,338)) = log(.5).

I then get x = (log(.5))/(log(292,201,337/292,201,338)).

Therefore, x = 202,538,535

This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:18 pm to
There's more than 1 possible set of 6 consecutive combinations.

I'll spare you the math, though. It's a question that's been tossed around a lot and nobody has come up with an accepted answer. If you do, immediately apply for tenure at the elite university of your choice.

And, once again, going back to the whole, original "do some combos have a lesser chance than others" in the OP, I still submit that the whole process is partially controlled and not completely random, making 6 consecutive numbers less likely than even statistics would indicate.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 5:22 pm
Posted by tigersint
Lafayette
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:18 pm to
I know one thing. I have alot better odds of winning 100$ tonihht if Bama cobers the 7 point spread and then winning 300$ if seattle wins it all.
Posted by tigersint
Lafayette
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:22 pm to
I also think that i have better odds of winning the powerball wednesday than i do of seeing a Deer tonight. Havent seen anything yet this trip
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 5:23 pm to
Odds are extremely small, absolutely. But just about zero doesn't equal zero.
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