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re: Philando Castile shooting dashcam video released - NSFW
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:10 pm to theenemy
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:10 pm to theenemy
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But when you perceive a risk and your heart rate and blood pressure shoot up...sometimes communication becomes hard.
And the same could be said about Castile. Maybe he was nervous as well. It's up to the officer of the law to defuse the situation. He had the draw on the driver and any well trained gun owner in that position will get off the first shot in that scenario.
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:11 pm to Hangit
quote:Yes
Was the FB video of him dying flipped?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:12 pm to jbgleason
Phlando Castille litterally said "I HAVE TO PULL IT OUT"
It's a shame, but I cannot balme the cop after seeing that video.
It's a shame, but I cannot balme the cop after seeing that video.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:13 pm to Pettifogger
No its not at all..
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:17 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed
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It's up to the officer of the law to defuse the situation.
You can't defuse...if the subject doesn't follow orders.
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He had the draw on the driver and any well trained gun owner in that position will get off the first shot in that scenario.
And a well trained gun owner knows that as soon as the other person starts to draw...its anybodies game. And getting the first shot off doesn't mean anything.
S.C. Trooper Mark Coates shot his killer 6 times in the chest with a .357 magnum and when he turned to seek cover the guy killed him with a .22 derringer.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:19 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Just wondering what background do you have to make this statement?
Law Enforcement 6 years.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:20 pm to jbgleason
Damn that's shitty and a fricked up situation. That dude should have never been a cop.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:21 pm to jbgleason
Agree seeing that I feel like it was legally justified, but very very unfortunate. If I remember correctly, he was intoxicated right? Maybe this blurred his judgement and he was getting the gun out to give to the cop u took the traffic stop was over. Maybe he wasn't reaching for it at all and the cop misread it. Either way, this was no murder. Cop was calm early on and didn't seem jumpy ay all. Afterward he is clearly distraught.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:21 pm to FreeState
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But the cop had no idea Philando was NOT going to shoot him.
Hell, you should be scared to leave the house if that's the bar we're gonna use to exonerate shooters 
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:21 pm to jbgleason
did they not give this cop a psychological test before hiring him? Cop does not have the mental make-up to be in law enforcement. Especially one who carries a firearm. That's obvious from his actions once he was told there was a gun in the vehicle to firing six shots into the car and how he acted afterward. I bet the cop is scared of his own shadow. He should've been serving lunch at the police academy if he wanted to be in law enforcement
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:24 pm to LucasP
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He was driving (from the driver's seat)
I now know the video was flipped to make it appear as if he was in the passenger seat.
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and it wasn't his "baby mama".
I assumed, seeing a man, woman, and child in a car. I should have played the percentages and known that if he was the child's father he would have been miles away from it's life.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:26 pm to Hangit
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I now know the video was flipped to make it appear as if he was in the passenger seat.
Idiot....all face time type videos are flipped
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:27 pm to rondo
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Idiot....all face time type videos are flipped
I don't watch them count.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:32 pm to FreeState
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OK, so the cop doesn't shoot and Philando draws his weapon and shoots the cop at point blank range. Then what?
Speculation. How many cop shooters tell a cop They have a weapon and CWP then try to shoot the cop 2 seconds later?
This is a happy story if they are not pulled over for a fricking brake light being burnt out. If he was that concerned he could have used his PA system and said "Fix your brake light."
He was fishing.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:35 pm to Hangit
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This is a happy story if they are not pulled over for a fricking brake light being burnt out. If he was that concerned he could have used his PA system and said "Fix your brake light."
This can't be stressed enough.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:35 pm to jbgleason
Ever come across a thread you have a deep down feeling you can't or should not get involved in?
This is one of those for me. It's a good one. Don't have the fight in me today, though. Glad others do, however.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:36 pm to jbgleason
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The officer warns the guy several times not to touch or draw the gun but he apparently does so anyway.
Irrelevant. Doesn't fit the narrative.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:43 pm to jbgleason
If you jump ahead in the video, you can hear someone asking the cop questions about what happened and the cop clearly says "I don't know where the gun was. He didn't fricking tell me where the gun was".
If you listen to that clip, it makes it sound like the cop really didn't know what the driver was reaching for. He said the "the grip looked wider than a wallet", making it sound like he never saw the gun, but assumed the driver was reaching for the gun. Maybe it was a wallet.
This is the queued up clip.
If you listen to that clip, it makes it sound like the cop really didn't know what the driver was reaching for. He said the "the grip looked wider than a wallet", making it sound like he never saw the gun, but assumed the driver was reaching for the gun. Maybe it was a wallet.
This is the queued up clip.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:44 pm to Hangit
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assumed, seeing a man, woman, and child in a car. I should have played the percentages and known that if he was the child's father he would have been miles away from it's life.
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now know the video was flipped to make it appear as if he was in the passenger seat.
But the thing is that none of those details are terrible important. What I find interesting was the fact that you were in such a hurry to tell someone they were wrong that you didn't bother to see if they were. Congrats buddy, you're the a-hole who always wants to be heard and never listen.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:47 pm to jbgleason
This one is kind of iffy. They stop the car, they ask for license and insurance which she provided them. The guy says "officer I got to tell you I have a firearm..." and this is when I question things.
It seems like he was thinking he was doing the right thing by telling the cops he had an illegal firearm on him, but was the guy trying to get something in the glove compartment? The girl handed him just his license and the guy was getting insurance card?
It seems like he was thinking he was doing the right thing by telling the cops he had an illegal firearm on him, but was the guy trying to get something in the glove compartment? The girl handed him just his license and the guy was getting insurance card?
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