- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Operator vs. Engineer?
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:59 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 7/23/20 at 9:59 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
The majority are weird as frick though.
And mess up more shite than they fix.
1
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:04 pm to Jarlaxle
Spoken like a true grunt
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:13 pm to CP3
quote:
I’d say roughly same pay, but way less hours worked for engineer. 5yr engineer easily makes over $100k if you are decent and aren’t weird with 40hr weeks no OT.
Ceiling for an engineer is a lot higher though IMO
Ceiling is definitely higher for engineers for the most part. I do know experienced operators that are consulting for major plants making 75$/hr plus. But that's more the outlier than the norm. I'm in my 5th year in operations, and I've haven't made less than 125k in the last 3 years. All while working less than 250 hours of OT a year. Idk everyone always thinks operators work every day. For instance, we're toward the end of July and I've worked 13 days of OT this year, and that's with having to cover extra for coworkers on quarantine.
Oh, I almost forgot. Something something truck nuts, Baw.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:21 pm to CharlesLSU
quote:
Honestly, it’s the gloating about sitting on their arse and collecting a paycheck while the educated group (ie engineers) have to actually work.
Is this a joke? Engineers can't grasp the fact that the real world isn't working exactly like their models and simulator. I'll also guarantee that I know more intelligent operators than engineers. There are definitely some dumb arse operators, but a lot are sharp guys with a ton of mechanical aptitude and common sense that chose not to further their education. For many reasons not having anything to do with a lack of intelligence.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:27 pm to Ric Flair
So many people think annual salaries are created equal. Calculate based on hours worked and your stinky oil jobs are not very impressive.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:28 pm to bayoumuscle21
This is the part of the threads I like.
A lot of engineers could have been doctors, I'm not listening to them about medical advice.
What you could have been is irrelevant to me.
Operators are way too fast to dismiss engineers as not understanding when they themselves can't explain why the stuff on paper won't work in the field. Just being a negative nancy and poo pooing every idea doesn't impress me.
A lot of engineers could have been doctors, I'm not listening to them about medical advice.
What you could have been is irrelevant to me.
Operators are way too fast to dismiss engineers as not understanding when they themselves can't explain why the stuff on paper won't work in the field. Just being a negative nancy and poo pooing every idea doesn't impress me.
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:39 pm to transcend
quote:
Calculate based on hours worked and your stinky oil jobs are not very impressive.
I work about 2300 hours a year. Thats 220 more than a normal 40 hr work week. That's on average 4 more hours a week.
If you want to talk about what kind of hours we work, then that would be a debate. On your previous point, you look mathematically ignorant or lazy.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:44 pm to bayoumuscle21
Base 12hr vs 8hr will work 200 additional hours.
52x40-88 assuming 11 holidays vs 183x12 average not counting OT.
52x40-88 assuming 11 holidays vs 183x12 average not counting OT.
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:51 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
Base 12hr vs 8hr will work 200 additional hours.
No, 104. Operations shift schedules work 42 hrs a week on average. 7 12 hr shifts in two weeks. You can keep arguing or listen to someone who actually does it for a living.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:52 pm to bayoumuscle21
365/2*12
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 7/23/20 at 10:55 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
Is this a joke? Engineers can't grasp the fact that the real world isn't working exactly like their models and simulator. I'll also guarantee that I know more intelligent operators than engineers. There are definitely some dumb arse operators, but a lot are sharp guys with a ton of mechanical aptitude and common sense that chose not to further their education. For many reasons not having anything to do with a lack of intelligence.
I can agree with this. Alot of engineers know the math and theory like the back of their hand, but can’t grasp how it relates to the real world. I worked for an electrical contractor during college running conduit,pulling wire, etc in plants before graduating and getting electrical engineering job. Should be mandatory to have field experience In my opinion. It gives you a much better understanding of how things actually work and get installed. Makes the design process go ALOT smoother having that knowledge.
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 7/23/20 at 11:49 pm to bayoumuscle21
You are absolutely correct. There are many intelligent operators out there that chose their career paths for different reasons. In my experiences with engineers, regardless of the field, their path was taken from out of high school. I have no disdain for any engineer, they’re all sharp, some socially awkward but all extremely smart. Operators vary in levels of education but most have that common sense factor going for them.........”most”. They are different careers, but both have merit for providing a comfortable living.
This post was edited on 7/23/20 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:06 am to charlestonchief
I’m a newly graduated ChemE struggling to get a job. Terrible time to be graduating but it dawned on me maybe I should’ve just went to trade school to just become an operator instead. Was it worth it I ask myself
Reading this thread reassured me that I made the right choice with my degree. Just gotta stay patient and hope for the best with a job soon.
Reading this thread reassured me that I made the right choice with my degree. Just gotta stay patient and hope for the best with a job soon.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 1:47 am to GEAUX5
Stay patient, especially if you’re in south Louisiana! Many opportunities here with a few of the plants expanding as well, keep pounding out the resume. I’m sure once the COVID concerns relax hiring will pick up.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 6:05 am to bayoumuscle21
Right. Once again, engineers are stupid......in the same mindset all contractors (civil world) are the true bastions of intelligence.
By all means, Mr Operator, tell us of the wonderous abilities of the Operator.
By all means, Mr Operator, tell us of the wonderous abilities of the Operator.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 6:23 am to Ric Flair
With OT and bonuses operators make more than most engineers not in a management role
Most those same engineers will work a lot of OT (Which isn’t paid) until they get into that management role.
Most those same engineers will work a lot of OT (Which isn’t paid) until they get into that management role.
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:33 am to LC-LSU-FAN
quote:
will work a lot of OT (Which isn’t paid)
Every firm I’ve worked for pays OT. It’s straight time so not time and a half, but still paid .
Page 16 of 16
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News