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re: On this day 189 years ago, some of the bravest men in history sold their lives dearly...

Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:12 pm to
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From Natchitoches

You misspelled Nakadish.
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:26 pm to
Some are still drawing Social Security.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:44 am to
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been a long time since I've read up on it but didn't Santa Ana give them several opportunities to surrender and the last offer was that if the offer was rejected there would be no prisoners(combatants,) taken?



That isn't accurate. Santa Anna considered the defenders within the Alamo to be pirates, not soldiers, and therefore exempt from the rules of war. Immediately after occupying San Antonio, Mexican forces raised a no quarter flag. After some attempts at negotiating an "honorable surrender," the Mexicans told them that any surrender would have to be unconditional and therefore summary executions would follow.
Posted by BlackAdam
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Posted on 3/7/25 at 1:16 pm to
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sn't there some evidence that a few were captured/surrendered and were executed later? I remember reading something about that.


Rumors that a small group were either captured or surrendered existed from just a few weeks after the battle. Davy Crockett was said to be among this group from the beginning.

The historical evidence is inconsistent. Susannah Dickinson stated all the defenders died in the battle. The De La Peña diary says a few defenders were brought before Santa Anna alive, that General Castrillon begged for clemency and Santa Anna was incensed and ordered the execution. De La Pena said Crockett was in this group.

There are problems with the execution hypothesis. It is not clear that any of the Mexicans could have identified specific members of the Alamo garrison, and De La Peña was an opponent of Santa Anna and supporter of Carrollton. Even if the diary is written by him, he had reason to show Santa Anna as excessively cruel. The journal was discovered at the height of Davy Crockett mania. Further Santa Anna never mentioned executions in his memoirs.

There is also some evidence that one man, Henry Warnell, survived the battle. Historians disagree on whether he was at the Alamo at all, and if he was, if he was there on 3/6.

He died of injuries in July 1836. Some historians maintain he sustained the injuries on 3/6 and others that he was injured leaving as a courrier on 3/3.
This post was edited on 3/7/25 at 3:37 pm
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