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re: On men, women, God, and mountains
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:45 am to Revelator
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:45 am to Revelator
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Stop trying to read something into scripture that isn’t there.
The Bible is very deep and interwoven. I agree that people shouldn’t try to put things into it, but I believe you do need to work to get meaning out of it. There is a difference.
Trying to insert things into it is just was flawed as simply reading it literally.
Guys like Jordan Peterson and Chuck Missler (RIP) spent years studying the Bible. Peterson isn’t a Christian but he takes the Bible very seriously and he’s actually said something similar to the OP. Basically that women generally know their purpose intuitively, men typically have to go out into the world to find it.
While I haven’t verified what the OP is saying, it sounds right off the top of my head. God (some element of the trinity) often meets women where they are because they’re usually doing what they’re supposed to be doing. Men like Abraham, Moses, David etc had to go out into the world to receive their revelations from Him.
And that’s not to say that God can’t go wherever He wants to speak to people. I’m saying that it does seem that He approaches men and women differently. That seems evident from the Bible and when you look at the world.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 9:47 am
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:46 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Religions have historically designated women as servants of men. The evolution of dimorphic sexual reproduction didn’t do them any favors either.
Humanity exists now as a dichotomous species wherein half, overall, are physically smaller and weaker than the other half. Religion in modern man has added a moral and intellectual assumption of inferiority to this natural disadvantage for women. Islam is the greatest expression of this false dichotomy.
Humanity exists now as a dichotomous species wherein half, overall, are physically smaller and weaker than the other half. Religion in modern man has added a moral and intellectual assumption of inferiority to this natural disadvantage for women. Islam is the greatest expression of this false dichotomy.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:51 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Remember, God comes to women.
Uh huhuhuhuhhh :Beavis:
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:53 am to Revelator
quote:Narrative sermons are in vogue. The pastor tells a story. It's a popular way to give a sermon because people learn and connect easily to stories. We're kind of wired that way.
I’m not sure what you are asking?
So, If you were to give a sermon on John 12:1-8
quote:
Six days before the Passover, Jesus therefore came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, whom Jesus had raised from the dead. 2 So they gave a dinner for him there. Martha served, and Lazarus was one of those reclining with him at table. 3 Mary therefore took a pound of expensive ointment made from pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped his feet with her hair. The house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. 4 But Judas Iscariot, one of his disciples (he who was about to betray him), said, 5 “Why was this ointment not sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor?” 6 He said this, not because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief, and having charge of the moneybag he used to help himself to what was put into it. 7 Jesus said, “Leave her alone, so that she may keep it for the day of my burial. 8 For the poor you always have with you, but you do not always have me.”
you would fill in the narrative by adding what you can logically and historically assume to be true.
Is that going beyond the Word of God, or is that being a thoughtful pastor who uses his faculties and resources wisely in order to bring Christ to his congregation?
If you'd like an example, look at verse 3:Mary therefore took a pound of expensive ointment made from pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped his feet with her hair.
In telling this story, you can talk about how expensive the oil would be in today's money, how the jar had to be broken and all must be used at once, how scandalous of an act that it must have seemed, how everyone was staring and whispering "what is she doing?" or "well that's Mary for you, always trying to make a scene", etc. etc.
Essentially, you're bringing the story to life.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 10:11 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:56 am to StupidBinder
The key to many a spiritual connection has been with man alone in nature and time to think internally. That's my church, temple.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 10:19 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 9:58 am to StupidBinder
quote:I think it was a bit over generalized, but at least he was thinking. That doesn't happen too much anymore.
While I haven’t verified what the OP is saying, it sounds right off the top of my head. God (some element of the trinity) often meets women where they are because they’re usually doing what they’re supposed to be doing. Men like Abraham, Moses, David etc had to go out into the world to receive their revelations from Him.
Paul was on a road, the disciples were on a beach just fishing. I think the mountain thing is more a display of where God shows his glory. You see this a lot in the Old Testament, but only once that I can recall in the New. The transfiguration, which again, is where God revealed the glory of Christ.
So I think it's more about God than it is men. But I'd like to think most things are.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Would you go so far as to say that you're a Christian?
The key to many a spiritual connection has been with man alone in nature and time to think interanally. That's my church, temple.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:06 am to bayoubengals88
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Would you go so far as to say that you're a Christian?
To some extent, and I suppose tha would depend on who is defining. I was agnostic for a long time but have come to believe some traditional spiritual ideas.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Thanks for your honesty.
To some extent, and I suppose tha would depend on who is defining. I was agnostic for a long time but have come to believe some traditional spiritual ideas.
Personally I'm mostly concerned with what Jesus said about being God and how we should live if that is true.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
The key to many a spiritual connection has been with man alone in nature and time to think interanally.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:18 am to Kentucker
Yeah that could have multiple meanings .. 
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:19 am to bayoubengals88
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Is that going beyond the Word of God, or is that being a thoughtful pastor who uses his faculties and resources wisely in order to bring Christ to his congregation? If you'd like an example, look at verse 3:Mary therefore took a pound of expensive ointment made from pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped his feet with her hair. In telling this story, you can talk about how expensive the oil would be in today's money, how the jar had to be broken and all must be used at once, how scandalous of an act that it must have seemed, how everyone was staring and whispering "what is she doing?" or "well that's Mary for you, always trying to make a scene", etc. etc. Essentially, you're bringing the story to life
No, I don’t have problems with a pastor trying to use modern things to make relevant things that happened in the Bible past.
My problem with her particular saying is that it was false and easily proven false by scripture.
It’s untrue that a man has to climb a mountain to talk to God. God is a spirit being and is everywhere all the time and anyone can seek him anywhere.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
Glad you’re a sport. We get the most endorphins, dopamine and serotonin when we laugh at ourselves.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:31 am to Revelator
quote:True
It’s untrue that a man has to climb a mountain to talk to God. God is a spirit being and is everywhere all the time and anyone can seek him anywhere.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:02 am to deltaland
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God is everywhere
Even in my toilet?
I think I shite all over God this morning
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:14 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Yeah......God NEVER approaches men. I guess He didn't approach Saul on the road to Damascus. Or Moses. Or Samuel. Elijah. Elisha. Daniel. Just to name a few off the top of my head. Such a foolish comment. Like another poster said: why try to make something that isn't there?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:16 am to GreatLakesTiger24
I enjoyed this. Thank you, and yes, He Lives!
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