re: Nobody wants to work anymore

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Then grow up and start your business if you dont like that

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The number of people running medium to large corporations who actually started those businesses is minuscule. Everyone is an employee, only difference is how high level you are.

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The number of people running medium to large corporations who actually started those businesses is minuscule

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And?

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Everyone is an employee, only difference is how high level you are.

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Well if you arent a weakling crying about other business on a message board and started your own company you cant get much higher of level than that now can you?

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Well if you arent a weakling crying about other business on a message board

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Big man talking trash on said message board. Truth is truth.

I figured

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NOBODY who is individually responsible for a 100m loss will survive. Why do you think executives hire consulting firms to tell them what they already know? It’s CYA in case the idea goes south.

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Saw a specialty chem company do a in-house engineering job once... without a consultant... the entire engineering staff quit the day the unit was started up. Always hire a consultant!

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Not the same thing as being punished for beating earnings

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Absolutely the same thing. A company that grows 20% in a year but is forecasted to have flat sales over the next 4 is going to be valued less than a similar company forecasted to grow 20% total over the course of the next 5 years. They may get an initial bump that first year but the second company will overtake them just by spreading out the growth.

This is also why so many decisions made by executives are based on short term results. Bump the stock to cash in options, move on before the decrease

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I guess it depends if the company defines itself by its stock price or its P&L statement. A company may indeed have its stock price devalued on the street, yet continue a 20% growth rate for factors not considered/misconstrued by the analyst(s) who made a forecast of said company from a stock perspective and not delving into extenuating factors that would affect its bottom line.

Yeti would seem to be a good example of this. For the life of me, I (and I would assume most analysts), can not figure out how a company can continue to sell a fricking 5 gallon bucket with a strap and a seat for $135, but they seem to do it with regularity.

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For the life of me, I (and I would assume most analysts), can not figure out how a company can continue to sell a fricking 5 gallon bucket with a strap and a seat for $135, but they seem to do it with regularity.

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I don’t think most consumers understand it either. Don’t forget $50 dog water bowls. No different than fancy watches and purses I guess.

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If you want the upside... buy the stock. How do people not understand this?

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"Well pay you as little as possible, but you can buy stock with what we give you and you too can become a millionaire."

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I suspect we all know why you can't find them.

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I suspect you don't have any examples to back up your claims.

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"Well pay you as little as possible

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You need to figure out the diffrence between an expense and an asset.

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but you can buy stock with what we give you and you too can become a millionaire."

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Yep. You'll find out being an owner is hard business, with not as much "upside" as you think. You're kinda making the argument for us here.

Take someone like XOM... $100 million in "savings"... works out to... $0.025/share.