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Nicholson @ Brightside Green Light Project

Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:12 am
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2913 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:12 am
Last March 2013, there was the following blub in the Advocate regarding the status of this project:

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ASK THE ADVOCATE: Nicholson at Brightside
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"The Nicholson Drive at W. Lee/Brightside intersection is certainly one of the higher volume intersections in this area. A project to significantly improve the intersection was included as part of our Green Light Program. This project is actually a partnership between the city-parish and the Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development since Nicholson Drive is a state route. The project will provide a dedicated left turn lane, a thru lane, and a shared thru-right lane at each leg of the intersection. It will also raise the roadway grade at the intersection to lessen the steep incline over the railroad tracks. The end result is a much safer intersection with the capacity to handle not just the current traffic volume, but volumes anticipated in 2030. The project is complicated due to the constraints caused by the railroad being so close to the intersection and being several feet higher than the existing roadway and our desire to incorporate the pedestrian-bike lane improvements. The project will also replace the bridge on Nicholson just south of this intersection. The project design is 98 percent complete and right of way acquisition is nearly complete. Negotiations are ongoing with the railroad regarding the crossing on Brightside. The project will be let by DOTD and the schedule is under their control, but we expect to begin clearing and moving utilities in the early part of 2014."


At that time, the Green Light Plan website indicated that the project was still in the design phase, which was 98% complete.

Here we are over a year later, and the Green Light website has the same status update regarding the project. Still in the design phase and still meeting with the railroad regarding the
Right of Way. It also doesn't look like there has been any utilities work in early 2014 as was anticipated.

Does anyone know the reasons for the continued delays on this project. It would just make absolute sense for them to have begun the work on this project while LSU is out on summer school.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:15 am to
One of the worst intersections in BR. Glad they are doing this.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
University of LSU
Member since Mar 2012
23153 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:16 am to
quote:

One of the worst intersections in BR. Glad they are doing this.


maybe
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:16 am to
I can tell you from other engineers' experiences that dealing with railroads, especially with ROW, is one of the most excruciatingly painful design experiences for engineers.

They don't like to budge on anything.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6174 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:17 am to
Nicholson/brightside is the single worse intersection design in the history if mankind.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Does anyone know the reasons for the continued delays on this project.

Railroad. This is the only reason.
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11551 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:18 am to
Good question. They have the best 2 plus months they will ever get for the project coming up.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39148 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:19 am to
Waiting to finish the loop first
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6174 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:20 am to
With a can of paint and a roller, they could make the intersection 100x better in one afternoon. Make the "right turn lanes" to "through lanes" and the current "through lanes" into "left turn lanes". BOOM.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:22 am to
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Nicholson/brightside is the single worse intersection design in the history if mankind. 



And people who turn left there will have a special place in hell. Right next to child rapists and people who wear fact brimmed hats.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:23 am to
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fact brimmed hats
Posted by mcneil912
Member since Feb 2013
5322 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:25 am to
Agreed. If I have to go somewhere between Nicholson and Burbank on Lee (Mike Anderson's, Caliente) I always take Burbank. frick taking a left at Nicholson and Lee.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:26 am to
I don't even think they need to do that. All that needs to be done for a temporary fix is change the traffic signal phasing.

Allow southbound Nicholson to have their own green phase (including left turns) that doesn't coincide with northbound.

Then allow northbound to have their own green phase.

No changes for Lee and brightside as they already have left turn lanes.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
6426 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:28 am to
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Single worse


quote:

Fact brimmed



So much fail.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:29 am to
Is there a larger GLP project on either Nicholson or Brightside/Lee? Part of the problem might be that the larger projects take precedence over a single intersection. But yes, the railroad is also a complicating factor.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:30 am to
Is it just the intersection? The entire length of Nicholson from Lee to Burbank needs to be four lanes.
Posted by meaux5
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2010
11010 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:31 am to
They really need to do this. Hopefully congestion as a result of construction won't be to bad.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98411 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Does anyone know the reasons for the continued delays on this project


The railroad

/thread
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5150 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:36 am to
They promised to fix Jones Creek in 2004. Ten years later, it's halfway done. I think by 2020 it will be amazing.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13377 posts
Posted on 5/14/14 at 8:36 am to
The entire Brightside/Lee/College corridor is a traffic light cluster frick. One of the most frustrating things each and everyday for me...especially small intersections like Boone & College that change on a whim at 6:30am for one car turning off Boone despite there being a line of 10-20 cars going down College.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 8:38 am
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