re: Net neutrality devil's advocate

Net Nonsense

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In 2010, an FCC order made such “unreasonable discrimination” illegal (until the rule was struck down in 2014), but even without this rule, consumers proved more than capable of standing up to big corporations and handling such discrimination themselves.

In competitive markets, the consumer’s demand for quality prevents companies from cutting corners. Before the FCC imposed public utility regulations on the Internet, ISPs were improving service and abandoning discriminatory practices in order to satisfy their users. Net Neutrality advocates have spent years demanding a government solution to a problem that markets had already solved.

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Fear mongering works, scares people into wanting more regulation on industry that really doesn't need it.

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DISH decided to throttle Internet access to regular users or small businesses, these irritated consumers would just switch brands.

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This argument really annoys me. Around 25% of the country only has one ISP choice for service. How can we switch brands if there is no alternative. New competition can't pop up overnight.

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Can you people just not survive without the internet?

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He says on an internet forum.

I used to work for an ISP and we had to lease the copper from ATT because they were the ones who ran the cables in the first place. In fact the only reason there is ANY competition at all is because the government forces AT&T to lease copper to their competitors at reasonable prices.

The problem is that not just anyone can start up their own ISP and start stringing cables along on public utility poles. Or burying copper all over the city.

So all of these big ISPs are shielded by government regulations that stop competitors from stringing up more copper which has created essentially a monopoly that is broken up by areas.

But these same ISPs which benefit from being treated as utilities (by having their competition stifled) don't want to be regulated like any other public utility. They want their cake and eat it too.

If you think you can just "start up my own ISP with better service and compete with the likes of Cox or Comcast" go ahead and try. Let us know how that works out.

because I would die without posting on the internet

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OK, I've been searching the internet to see if anyone who works for the Big 6 has come to the defense of PewDiePie. The only one I could find was from MTV of all networks who did a wishy washy one that wasn't definitively positive or critical of him, just saying he apologized and that's it.

Do you morons not see why these people can't be trusted yet? Anyone who knows anything about this story knows it's bullshite. You don't think these people are not going to go Freddy Kruger on the internet when they have their first opportunity? Someone as uncontroversial as PewDiePie, and no one who works for the Big 6 doesn't come out and say "hey this is all fricking bullshite and you're ridiculously misrepresenting a person of pretty good moral character"? They just went straight for the jugular and didn't give a frick about the costs, and they've told their employees if they go against the narrative then they're fired.

Why he hasn't sued the WSJ/News Corp yet for defamation and libel to take them for all their worth I still can't fathom. He wouldn't even have to spend a cent on defense since every independent creator on the internet would donate to his legal costs. Every independent news source and creator would all want a piece of that pie.

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They start throttling, they'll get competition.

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Let me know when new ISPs with no customers can drop billions needed to wire up just one medium-sized city overnight.


This isn't some low barrier industry that competition can swoop in overnight and provide a better service.

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I used to work for an ISP and we had to lease the copper from ATT because they were the ones who ran the cables in the first place. In fact the only reason there is ANY competition at all is because the government forces AT&T to lease copper to their competitors at reasonable prices. The problem is that not just anyone can start up their own ISP and start stringing cables along on public utility poles. Or burying copper all over the city. So all of these big ISPs are shielded by government regulations that stop competitors from stringing up more copper which has created essentially a monopoly that is broken up by areas. But these same ISPs which benefit from being treated as utilities (by having their competition stifled) don't want to be regulated like any other public utility. They want their cake and eat it too. If you think you can just "start up my own ISP with better service and compete with the likes of Cox or Comcast" go ahead and try. Let us know how that works out.

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. So how does .gov not allow companies to enter into the phone business? There are a few companies other than ATT. CenturyTel comes to mind. Century has it's own networks, etc.

Also, If .gov stifles competition how were the fiber systems allowed to be built mid 90's and beyond? How was Suddenlink able to build a system in my Podunk neighborhood in order to give ATT competition?

The info some of you are posting is not making sense. I'm beginning to think its mostly bullshite.

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They start throttling, they'll get competition.

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Don't ever ask how

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an option