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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:10 pm to thedrumdoctor
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:10 pm to thedrumdoctor
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Could the Atchafalaya basin handle the load if it were to become the new Mississippi?
frick no. It would completely wipe out all the towns along the AR
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:14 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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The existence of Morgan City as a viable economic entity versus the existence of everything south of Morganza on the Mississippi River as one, should not be that difficult a proposition. I'm not saying this as someone with any particular animus to Morgan City either.
Sending more water down the Atchafalaya for good would ultimately become a boom for places like Morgan City, particularly if it was done phases.
Practically that will never happen. Abandoning New Orleans simply won't happen.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:15 pm to thedrumdoctor
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Could the Atchafalaya basin handle the load if it were to become the new Mississippi?
Rumor is that pipelines, roads, and bridges couldnt handle it
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:18 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:the stupidity of the corp with reguard to that is amazing. I mean there are places that would pay to have material brought in and the corp makes it hard for them to do it when it would be a benefit for both parties. Corp should give them a discount taking some of this material and dispersing it elsewhere.
They want 70% royalties if you keep what you dredge up. Use to be some people locally that rand dredges for years here and would get several barges a day in gravel until they were told it would cost the 70% in royalties. They shut the operation down after that
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:19 pm to tgrbaitn08
yeah, here's an interesting article that I found. It brings up an interesting point should the river divert itself into the Atchafalaya. All of the chemical plants long the river that depend on it for importing/exporting product would be fricked. Advocate Article
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:21 pm to thedrumdoctor
quote:it could....but some major area humans have inhabited probably wouldnt make it.
Could the Atchafalaya basin handle the load if it were to become the new Mississippi?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:23 pm to CarRamrod
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it could....but some major area humans have inhabited probably wouldnt make it.
So no, it couldn’t
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:25 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
you really want to argue dont you?
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:27 pm to CarRamrod
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you really want to argue dont you?
Just saying, if you disqualify homes and places of business, technically anywhere on earth could handle the Mississippi
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:35 pm to Jim Rockford
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Morgan city went completely under in the 73 flood.
Not at all. Backwater flooding was an issue, but the city proper was still protected by the levees.

If you were outside of the levees, yeah, it sucked.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:40 pm to Jim Rockford
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Morgan city went completely under in the 73 flood.

Posted on 5/23/19 at 3:43 pm to slackster
Yeah but it was a busted levee from being fricked. Fishing would be great with all the structure tho
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:02 pm to TDsngumbo
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I don't know that officially but I assume it's operating at max capacity. Why would it not be with the river so high?
It's not far from it. Atchafalaya at Simmesport is roughly 86% of its discharge peak in 2011.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:04 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Yeah but it was a busted levee from being fricked. Fishing would be great with all the structure tho
It's pretty incredible to me the city is supposedly protected to 21 feet, despite the river never getting over 11 feet in recorded history.
Morgan City and Berwick are actually well prepared for things like this. The surrounding areas? Not so much.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:09 pm to slackster
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Morgan City and Berwick are actually well prepared for things like this. The surrounding areas? Not so much.
I dunno. Guess it depends on the thickness and depth of the sheet piling they have. When you pass over 90 and see the water already lapping up against those sheets it doesn’t give you a warm feeling

The water was right under the train bridge when I passed yesterday
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:15 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I dunno. Guess it depends on the thickness and depth of the sheet piling they have. When you pass over 90 and see the water already lapping up against those sheets it doesn’t give you a warm feeling The water was right under the train bridge when I passed yesterday
The train bridge would be gone in a flood higher than 1973.
Having water around you that is 8 feet higher than your road elevations is terrifying, sure, but it supposedly would stay dry up to 21 feet.
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20 There is a catastrophic flood threat. Evacuation of the cities of Berwick and Morgan City is strongly recommended. Flood walls protect the cities to an elevation of 21 feet.
12 There is a major flood threat. Back water flooding of Bayou Bouef will cause damage east of Morgan City to the community of Amelia. Structures on the river side of protection walls in Morgan City and Berwick will be under water. River traffic restrictions will be strictly enforced.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:17 pm to slackster
I haven’t looked at the peak flow of the Snatch River, but I would say there’s maybe 10 feet before the water is over the tracks of the bridge
Probably less
Probably less
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:18 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Snatch River
I'd like to go swimming in that river.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:20 pm to slackster
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20 There is a catastrophic flood threat. Evacuation of the cities of Berwick and Morgan City is strongly recommended. Flood walls protect the cities to an elevation of 21 feet.
12 There is a major flood threat. Back water flooding of Bayou Bouef will cause damage east of Morgan City to the community of Amelia. Structures on the river side of protection walls in Morgan City and Berwick will be under water. River traffic restrictions will be strictly enforced.
Looking at the Atchafalaya River @ Morgan City, the record is only 10.5'. What are you talking about in your post? I am apparently looking at the wrong one.
Posted on 5/23/19 at 4:24 pm to slackster
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It's pretty incredible to me the city is supposedly protected to 21 feet, despite the river never getting over 11 feet in recorded history
I'd bet it is more about storm surge protection than the river. Might not be on the gulf exactly, but isn't exactly high ground between them and the gulf and water pushing up the river wouldn't be ideal.
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