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re: Moderna vaccine kicked my arse

Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98337 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:16 pm to
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The multitudes of variants that will necessitate shots for the rest of your life, while wearing masks, social distance and living like a hermit say that’s a big, big fattest of the fattest......no.


The current vaccines give sufficient immunity for all the variants that have been tested thus far. If they don't, getting a shot once a year is not a big deal to me. Remember, though, the virus would have to mutate in such a way as to evade immunity while at the same time retaining the characteristics that allow it to attach to a specific location on a specific type of human cell. Not such an easy thing.

As far as the masks and social distancing...I'm done with that the day I get my second shot.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:16 pm to
Because it applies for other viruses. It's common knowledge you can assume is the same here.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7321 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:17 pm to
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hat? Isn't the shots identical 1st and second shot.

The second shot has the microchip, dummy.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:18 pm to
Oh, that explains why the wireless worked better on my phone when I got the second shot from Pfizer. Must've activated 5G or something inside me.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25076 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:18 pm to
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I had a very mild case, and how much immunity that confers is still unsettled, AFAIK. Two shots and I can put this shite out of my mind for good. That's my reasoning.


Antibodies are antibodies and a vaccine does not make better or worse antibodies than the virus.

A vaccine is nothing more that the virus itself introduced into your system.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7964 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:18 pm to
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The CDC says this but where is the research on a virus that is been around for a little over a year
ain’t none. Those assholes have not a clue. I had that shite March of last year, mild flu like for about a week never skipped a beat. If it kills me one day, it kills me. frick those know nothing assholes
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8041 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:19 pm to
Im 37 and in fantastic shape.

I'll pass on the experimental medicine.

Y'all have at it. Hope nobody starts growing fingers out of their forehead.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25076 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:20 pm to
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Because it applies for other viruses. It's common knowledge you can assume is the same here.



What other viruses? Mutations?

All come from the initial strain which the vaccine does as well.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98337 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:21 pm to
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Antibodies are antibodies and a vaccine does not make better or worse antibodies than the virus. A vaccine is nothing more that the virus itself introduced into your system.


The theory being that a vaccination gives a stronger jolt to your immune system than a small viral load of the covid. If the shot is superfluous, so be it. Gives me some peace of mind and the side effects have been minor and transient.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:23 pm to
Yup. I think that shite already activated 5G in my personally. I guess 100 million and countless hundreds millions more in this world are absolutely fricked.



They're not going to dose 360 million+ americans to kill them dumbass. This technology has been around for decades. It's not as experimental as you think. Now if you want to talk about using it as a draconian way to dictate society and make big money...that's an entirely different subject. There's no way they'd release a worldwide vaccine unless it was safe and the data prove it's safe after hundreds of millions of doses.

Vaccine long term side effects in all previous vaccines only pop up around 2-3 months max and they're extremely rare. None popped up in clinical trials. These vaccines right now might actually be safer than more traditional ones. This is what the data shows.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25076 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:23 pm to
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The theory being that a vaccination gives a stronger jolt to your immune system than a small viral load of the covid.


That’s complete bullshite. As I said antibodies are antibodies and one does not create them better than the other.

Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12030 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:25 pm to
I have the 5G system in my brain. I hear hundreds of voices inside my head telling me to nasty things.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25076 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:26 pm to
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These vaccines right now might actually be safer than more traditional ones. This is what the data shows.


I personally know a lady that almost died from the second dose of the vaccine.

Was in the hospital for two weeks and on a ventilator.

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98337 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:27 pm to
I'm not trying to convince anybody to get the vaccine. Why are you trying so hard to convince people not to?
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11415 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:27 pm to
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I had that shite March of last year, mild flu 


You tested positive last March? You were one of the real early cases in Louisiana.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98337 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:30 pm to
We had a relative with a mysterious respiratory illness in December of 2019. A cough that wouldn't go away, woke up one night with shortness of breath, spent a couple of days in the ICU on a ventilator. Recovered uneventfully but it was pretty scary. Her husband works in a federal detention facility for illegal immigrants...
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8594 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:30 pm to
Took the one shot J&J and felt like crap the next day. Back to normal 2 days later. Everyone else I know who took that one said the same.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:31 pm to
It's not foolproof of course but it's extremely difficult to align stuff like this with the actual vaccine being the cause. Sometimes vaccine deaths are associated with frail people who have conditions where any sickness like the flu/covid likely would've killed them anyway. For example, they get liver failure after a vaccine because they had liver problems. That's because it's tricking your immune system which is why you get sick. Your organs work harder on your body when you get sick like your liver which leads to liver failure.

This is why a lot try to associate deaths directly with vaccines when in reality them just getting sick with something likely would've triggered it anyway. Not saying that's what happened here in that person's case but as they definitely have some extremely rare incidents that can be associated with vaccines. And admittedly, not everything is known here yet with these. If it was a widespread problem after 100 million doses it would be much worse than it is.

The positives far outweigh the negatives for a chance at something extremely rare. There's no way they could cover this data up if it was a widespread problem. It's impossible. Not to mention other countries using the same vaccine making the information even more readily available.

When you have 100 million doses administered to Americans and only 2000 vaccine death cases are being investigated...yeah. Not exactly something there.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 9:34 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25076 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:32 pm to
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I'm not trying to convince anybody to get the vaccine. Why are you trying so hard to convince people not to?


Because some (ones that have had Covid) already are getting it out of ignorance. Ignorance that is being perpetrated by the government.

Let someone else that hasn’t been sick with it get the vaccine.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11415 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:36 pm to
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Let someone else that hasn’t been sick with it get the vaccine


We'll put you down for a no. I got vaccine primarily so I can travel. Not scared of the vaccine, but don't blame those who are.
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