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Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:48 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
quote:But predatory lending is exclusively for blacks? Can't have it both ways.
Name one, because there has never been one piece of legislature that has solely been written for blacks
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:48 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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You're talking to a guy who in this thread advocated building a monument to the leader of the revolution that led to the modern nation of Haiti, a place where black people suffer worse than maybe anywhere else on Earth. The guy obviously hasn't thought his whole ideology through.
I could go into how the European nations have constantly run Haiti into the ground ever since they failed to colonize Haiti.
Also the Clintons to this day continue to steal money from Haiti.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:50 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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The Europeans didn't have a need for slaves because they had all those Irish slaves, but bought the African slaves anyways. Is this how it went down?
The Irish weren't slaves. They were indentured servants and sharecroppers. They weren't property that were bought and sold, they had rights....especially in America. Either way, you're blaming the entire thing on europeans, because of course you are. If they weren't for sale, they wouldn't have been bought.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:52 pm to The Mick
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But predatory lending is exclusively for blacks? Can't have it both ways.
Who do they target? Where are all the payday loan offices located?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:56 pm to TigerStripes06
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Africans sold other Africans into slavery. The tribes that lost turf wars to other tribes were sold to europeans. Europeans didn't come to africa and enslave them.
The belgians did, but they enslaved them in their own country. And that was WAYYYYYY after the fact.
Everything I have read is that the Portuguese were really the leaders in this. Starting in the 1440s they were raiding the west coast of Africa looking for captives to sell.
Like I said earlier, it should have been the responsibility of the nation/tribe leaders to protect them from whoever was raiding. That little piece of accountability often gets missed.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:56 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Who do they target? Where are all the payday loan offices located?
No one forces anyone to live outside their means. Use your brain.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:56 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
quote:They target impoverished communities.
Who do they target? Where are all the payday loan offices located?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:56 pm to TigerStripes06
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The Irish weren't slaves. They were indentured servants and sharecroppers. They weren't property that were bought and sold, they had rights....especially in America.
I am well aware of this.
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Either way, you're blaming the entire thing on europeans, because of course you are. If they weren't for sale, they wouldn't have been bought.
There would not be a supply for slaves if there wasn't a demand. Imagine if the Africans were selling Flamingos. Do you think the Europeans would have bought a bunch of Flamingos if they had no use for them?
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:57 pm to The Mick
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They target impoverished communities.
What demographic makes up the majority of impoverished communities?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:59 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Like I said earlier, it should have been the responsibility of the nation/tribe leaders to protect them from whoever was raiding. That little piece of accountability often gets missed.
Why would those nations/tribe leaders give one single shite about some captured rival tribesman? Just assume make a quick buck as they would look at them.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:59 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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I guess the Africans twisted the Europeans arm to buy the slaves. I mean the Europeans were just cruising around in their ships and the Africans flagged them down and made them a sweet heart deal on some gently used slaves. The Europeans didn't have a need for slaves because they had all those Irish slaves, but bought the African slaves anyways. Is this how it went down?
Maybe.
There was enough contact with the Arabs in the Middle East to see how they handle slavery and where their slaves (and the Arabs had many sources and types of slaves) came from. Don't see BLM in many Arab dominated countries. Arabs have a significant role in the African slave trade with the Ottomans up to the beginning of the 20th century....legally. Some of this is culturally and some religious.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:59 pm to TigerStripes06
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If they weren't for sale, they wouldn't have been bought.
Even if they were for sale their leaders failed. They were technologically inferior and didn't have the martial power to fight off those more powerful.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:01 pm to TigerStripes06
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Why would those nations/tribe leaders give one single shite about some captured rival tribesman? Just assume make a quick buck as they would look at them.
They wouldn't, but I'd like to think the people of the original tribe would.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:03 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
quote:The check cashing business boom is a result of the community investment act (or something like that). That law required banks to serve low income clients so the banks all partnered with check cashing companies or started their own.
What demographic makes up the majority of impoverished communities?
So a push for banks to deal with low income families produced a law requiring banks to do so. Then after the banks started doing so, they're being accused of holding down the low income clients and treating them unfairly?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:08 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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There would not be a supply for slaves if there wasn't a demand.
I think that's true.
The sad reality is that if they werent the easiest to buy/sell/conquer then it wouldn't have happened. Had they had the technology or the power to fight them off they wouldn't have been enslaved.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:11 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Even if they were for sale their leaders failed. They were technologically inferior and didn't have the martial power to fight off those more powerful.
If you see throughout history this is a reoccurring theme with a certain group of people. They would like to conquer and pillage weaker people. Fast forward to today these same people like to step in and stop others from conquering and pillaging other defenseless countries. The put a twist on it and call it democracy. My question is where was this democracy when genocide occurred on the Indians or native Americans? Where was this democracy when they enslaved blacks? Where was this democracy when they forced blacks to fight for the freedom of others but denied them freedom here in America?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:12 pm to The Mick
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The check cashing business boom is a result of the community investment act (or something like that). That law required banks to serve low income clients so the banks all partnered with check cashing companies or started their own.
So a push for banks to deal with low income families produced a law requiring banks to do so. Then after the banks started doing so, they're being accused of holding down the low income clients and treating them unfairly?
I will concede this because honestly I don't care enough to look into this anymore. And I do agree you are correct they target the impoverish.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:18 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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The put a twist on it and call it democracy. My question is where was this democracy when genocide occurred on the Indians or native Americans
You're confusing ideas here. Democracy is the rule of government by it's own citizens, not those of other countries.
Those African slaves or Native Americans were not citizens. They had no voice inside govt to enact or dissuade govt. It wasn't in the interest of expanding the US to cede Indians land. It wasn't in the interest of slave states (north and south) to free said slaves.
You lost me here:
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Where was this democracy when they forced blacks to fight for the freedom of others but denied them freedom here in America?
What period are you referring to exactly? WWI?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:23 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
My only point with this was you were trying to distance blacks from entitlement laws by saying there are no laws exclusively for blacks. But then you said predatory lending targets blacks exclusively (as if poor whites, latinos, etc don't get targeted).
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