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Medicare Adviser?

Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:31 pm
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:31 pm
My FIL is on some very expensive medications...the costs are putting a real hurting on his finances. He's tried using manufacturer coupons but something to do with his Medicare coverage means he doesn't get relief from the costs. His pharmacist tells him he can't use the coupons, the insurance is worthless, so he's basically coming out of pocked over $1k/mo for three prescriptions.

I looked into some international mail options but the prices were still insane, plus he'd be dealing with the risks associated with ordering offshore. I tried reading up on Medicare and, holy shite, there's way too much to understand.

Is anyone familiar with a service provider who deals with Medicare options? Like tells you which plan and supplemental would work best given a particular health situation with particular medications? I don't know if this would be an insurance broker, or a lawyer, or if there's something else I'm not aware of?

Would really like to help put him on a better path but I'm completely out of my element on anything Medicare related.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:32 pm to
What drugs?

Ah just noticed its mmmmmmmcreampie
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 6:34 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by Cymry Teigr
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:33 pm to
His doctor / clinic should be able to put him in touch with a social worker who can guide him through what’s needed and help with options.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:35 pm to
What are the meds? I was the administrator for state government accounts w CVS for years. A little more info would be good for discussion. Sounds like a Part D donut hole IYAM
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted by Honkus
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:35 pm to
Mmmmmm

This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 7:04 pm
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:36 pm to
He’s pretty much SOL until open enrollment in October and of course that is for plans starting in 2023-
most manufacturer coupons do not allow them to be used with people who have government insurance ( Medicare)

Then, I’d suggest maybe you helping him out here.

Gather his drugs that he takes, make one list. Be prepared before you call Medicare.

Hopefully you can get someone who speaks serviceable English

When enrolling for 2023’s part D plan,

A) make sure whatever pharmacy he uses/likes is in the preferred pharmacy ( doesn’t do him good to have to switch drugstores to people he’s unfamiliar with )

B) make sure all his expensive drugs are considered formulary for whatever plan you’re enrolling. Make sure to ask about what the monthly premium is and what the deductible will be ( I see it way too often come January, people don’t realize they have a $1,000 deductible and have to decide if they can get their insulin or pay their rent .)

C) ask what his copays will be for the expensive ones .

Very important tasks to be completed and it’s sad how the elderly are just thrown to the wolves and they don’t know the questions to ask when enrolling.
Or people will say “ give me the cheapest plan” and of course it’s probably shittey and they’re out of pocket is a lot
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:39 pm to
I am on some high priced meds too. The very first thing to do is to see if his doc can switch to some generic meds that are off patent now. Most insurance plans have “preferred” drugs in every category. For example Eliquis is a blood thinner that was prescribed for me. Eliquis costs $515 per month. Coumadin, another blood thinner, costs a little over $5 per month. The difference is you have to get periodic blood tests on the cheap one and you don’t on the Eliquis.

Also, don’t fail to check some of the free clubs like Good RX….I’ve seen that result in some shocking discounts.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 6:51 pm
Posted by LSUCyberGirl
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:44 pm to
I dealt with this with my Mom, on a very expensive med for PAH, there are often manufacturer patient assistance programs for brand name meds for people who are under-insured. Some Medicare patients will qualify for them based on annual income. She had money in savings, just not a large annual income. Just something to look into and doesn't hurt to apply. It covered all of the drug for my Mom for a year with option to apply annually. I'm not talking about the manufacturer coupons, I'm referencing the patient assistance programs.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 6:47 pm
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

What are the meds?


xarelto
entresto
trelegy
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

Lawyered


How are elderly folks, who sure as hell not computer literate, supposed to make heads or tails of all of this?! Ridiculous.

Thanks for the bullets.
Posted by Lawyered
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

How are elderly folks, who sure as hell not computer literate, supposed to make heads or tails of all of this?! Ridiculous.


Great question. The enrollment people don’t know anything either, they’re just getting folks to sign up, so they don’t give a damn if you’re enrolling in a good plan for you or not . Strictly a numbers game for their patient rolls.

And then you get a crappy that you’re stuck with for the entire year potentially all because you assume when you enroll that the person is actively trying to help you out .

I was having this exact discussion with someone last week in fact I have it often come open enrollment time later in the fall

Having someone around who can have the meds organized and can assist can save potentially thousands out of pocket when it comes to enrolling


Edit: sorry I can’t really help you out with this current situation with all these high costs , but I can hopefully help to prevent this from occurring next year for y’all.

This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 7:07 pm
Posted by Spankum
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

xarelto entresto trelegy


Well, those are some of the very meds that I talk about in my post

Xarelto can be substituted for Coumadin (which costs $5)
Entresto can be subbed out for Carvedilol (which is about $10)
I don’t know about Trelegy
Posted by Mr Clean
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:13 pm to
Joe Namath
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

Eliquis costs $515 per month.


It's about 23 when all OOP is met
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

It's about 23 when all OOP is met


What is “OOP”?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65697 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

xarelto
entresto
trelegy


Ahh. New designer meds with gigantic marketing numbers. I or someone will look and post brand or gen equivs

What does he weigh if had to guess?
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:20 pm to
Yes
List out the medications
Posted by oldtimefootball
Winnfield La
Member since Feb 2013
434 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:23 pm to
Most Medicare Advantage Plans are much better than original Medicare, even if you have a good Medicare Supplemental Plan. If you don't have a Medicare Supplemental Plan, original Medicare will put you in the poorhouse. Look at the Medicare Advantage Plans available in your zip code area. These plans are listed in the back of your Medicare handbook. Of course, you have to see if the medicines you need are in the formulary of the plan you would like to choose. You are probably going to have to wait for open enrollment in October, but Medicare does have options to change plans before open enrollment. Look in the handbook.
Posted by Rocklicker
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:24 pm to
MARC insurance
Local. Ask for Alan.
Tell ‘em Rocklicker sent you.

He will literally come sit in your living room and explain it all if that’s what you want. He did the same for my parents and in-laws.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 7:30 pm
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