re: MARSOC Training And Beyond. Anyone With Experience On The Subject?

I may be wrong but I believe in SF they ask for 6 years

Anyone can screen for MARSOC. I believe you have to have 2 years in and be a corporal. Obviously other admin checks in the box exist like certian pro/cons (making sure the Marine isn't a shite bag) and there isn't a certian PFT (except for first class) to screen but it's recommended that the Marine is probably running a 285+.

I believe A&S is the initiation part and I had 2 of my marines (non 03xx) make it after 2 attempts each. Can't remember why one had to drop, but the other had his pack digging into his body and it got so badly infected that he had to drop a week before completion. These marines were in great shape but they weren't huge dudes by any means.

Also if you do screen out typically you only get one chance. Those 2 were very lucky that it was medical. Pretty sure they can still drop you and you get either re assigned a new MOS or admin separated because of the contract.

Just my experience. Typically 1371 are meat heads that will run through walls if told to do so, so if this Marine is fresh new or younger be has great odds. It's all mental like everything else in the military. Better know how to swim.

How long has he been in? How old?

A good pt score only gets you an opportunity the mental faculties this requires is a whole different level

If he's really looking to do it. He'll need to put on some solid mass. A&S will drop you about 15-20 pounds. Training needs to include; weights, running, and lots of humps (hikes with 50-100 pounds of gear)
The swim isn't bad. Not nearly the level needed for SEAL or Recon training but he (you) needs to be water competent and confident. If you're a little bitch in the water, the instructors will frick with you to make you quit. If you look confident and comfortable it's not bad at all. When "someone I know" did A&S, he needed to have at least 3 years on contract in order to continue on to be an operator. Basic follow on schools are a little over a year. Advanced schools continue pretty much your entire enlistment. They're really gearing their training/mission to be that of an Army SF unit with some strike force and maritime capability as well. Hopefully if Mattis gets the SECD position, MARSOC (MSOB) will get some sexier missions. As it stands now, the SEALs, and Delta get all the good shite because that's who are the most proven. MARSOC barely gets any good missions themselves and are used as "tag alongs" for a lot of the higher profile shite. Hope this was helpful. It's very very very much worth it IMO.

ETA: what some others have said is true as well. Needs some time in. I've only seen them take boots (new Marines) when they were just standing up (06-07) to my knowledge, your friend will need some time in the Corps before they're going to select him now. I think age requirement is still 21 and you can't be past the rank of Staff Sergeant (E-6)
Yes, they used Recon and Force Recon to stand up initially due to personnel issues and manpower. Around 07 is when they opened it to all MOS fields because they realized they were excluding a lot of good Marines. Also, IQ and intelligence is very very valued... Operators are from every field; Admin, Supply, Ammo, etc

Being a grunt will neither help or hurt you. The combat tactics taught differ from that of a full squad or platoon because advanced schooling is based on very very small unit tactics. As long as you know land nav, you're right on par with the grunts. I've "heard of" a lot of them try to come to the course with swole heads because they thought they'd breeze through and were dropped within the first count days.

Why not join the Army if you want to go the SF route? I get it the MARSOC path is easier, but you will never get the important missions.

Go big or go home.

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Why not join the Army if you want to go the SF route? I get it the MARSOC path is easier, but you will never get the important missions. Go big or go home.

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Or go Combat Control

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Exactly why he went USMC....wanted to be all he could be...

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Then he would have gone SF, Ranger, CCT, PJ, TACP, Seal or SWCC

MARSOC is harder than ranger training. This isn't a dick measuring contest and MARSOC is SOCOM where as recon and force recon wasn't.

Everyone and their brother has a ranger tab but aren't in an actual ranger unit. If you complete MARSOC you'll be in a MSOB doing missions.

Don't know why everyone always says this shite about the army. And you need to stop watching Hollywood movies and start learning about facts

Yea, really not trying to get into a dick measuring contest here but Ranger school is more of a "grueling right of passage" for a lot in the Army. Not really a "skills" course. Basically, as long as you can take the punishment and sleep deprivation, you'll get your tab. I haven't been to Ranger course but have worked with many many many of those who have and that's straight from their mouths.

ETA: 75th RBat are legit.

Alright.

Agree to disagree. Not a big deal.