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re: Man threatens to knock out and drown 14-year-old for fishing at a neighborhood pond

Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9292 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:53 pm to
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The threat was stupid, but the report doesn’t touch on if the neighborhood pond was public or if place the kid was fishing in the pond was public land or sidewalk


Looking at some photos of the park/pond online shows a sign saying it's a private pond owned by the club. The sign also says "No Fishing, No Swimming, No Boating".

Wonder if the 14 year old lived in the neighborhood? It's the Onion Creek golf club subdivision off I-35 in Austin. Guy was still an a-hole for how he handled it, no matter what the situation was.


This what I was thinking after reading the cops response without seemingly even interviewing the guy and seeing it was a neighborhood with a golf course.

If just felt like the cops thought the guy overreacted, but also that the kid should not have been fishing there due to rules or being private property.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
89966 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 12:55 pm to
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What’s your point? Someone also said the old man is a Lib. A few people who look at everything through a political lens will continue to make anything political, even on the OT.

the stupid bastard is obsessed with "moderates", he literally brings it up in every one of his retarded posts.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70153 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:19 pm to
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How does this make any sense?
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I’m going to punch your lights out so hard you knock yourself out


I don't know, but it sounded like some cold-blooded shite to say to someone.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9292 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:41 pm to
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You sound like an HOA president


Nope. I never even went to a meeting.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9292 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 1:55 pm to
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The threat was stupid, but the report doesn’t touch on if the neighborhood pond was public or if place the kid was fishing in the pond was public land or sidewalk.


Sullivan PARK is a public park within a neighborhood


Being called a park is not a definitive answer on an area being public. After another poster said he checked the street view and saw no fishing and private property I went and saw the same thing.

If you go to the pond on Map app around 2401 Pebble Beach Drive in this neighborhood it has a sign that states Sullivan Park is owned and maintained by the HOA. It has another sign that states “Private Pond of Club” “No Fishing”, “No Boating”, and “No Swimming”. Also that the golf course is private property as well.

If the street view is out of date, and the park and pond have become public property with fishing now allowed please share where you see this change.

Thanks in advance.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9292 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Young fella bringing heat.


Young fella left out he was trespassing on a HOA private park and pond, or that he was breaking the rules of the HOA if living in the neighborhood.

The guy was being a dick, but that doesn’t make the kid innocent.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36784 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 2:06 pm to
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For Victoria Retana’s 14-year-old son, fishing is not just a hobby. “He lives and breathes it. It’s everything to him. So, every day he has to get his little fix of fishing. It’s like non-negotiable,” Retana said.


That is actually kinda sad and pathetic.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9526 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 2:13 pm to
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That is actually kinda sad and pathetic.


Yeah super pathetic.

He should be gangbanging instead.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21597 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 2:14 pm to
I’m surprised they tried to go the legal route to get accountability. She should’ve just named and shamed him in her original social media posts, assuming they know the name of the person.

ETA: the mom….I know a crazy latina when I see one
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 2:19 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9292 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Fuuuuuck off Karen



This kid has been going there every day after school which likely means he has ignored being told the situation multiple times and probably has acted like a twat about it. Definitely being disrespectful to keep ignoring that’s it’s private property with a no fishing rule. This time the kid did it so he could record it while he kept his mouth shut, and the idiot gave him something. That still doesn’t mean the kid was in the right to go every day after school to private property and/or to fish where a no fishing sign is posted. It just means the guy should have handled it differently that day and even well before when kid first started doing this.

It was obvious when the cops did nothing. They didn’t even talk to the guy. This story is coming from the mom’s and kid’s POV, and it is purposely leaving out the kid’s past interactions with any adults there and that it is posted private property of an HOA along with a posted no fishing sign out in place by the owners.
Posted by coffeesmeller
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 4:39 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 4:45 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37628 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 5:15 pm to
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This kid has been going there every day after school which likely means he has ignored being told the situation multiple times and probably has acted like a twat about it. Definitely being disrespectful to keep ignoring that’s it’s private property with a no fishing rule. This time the kid did it so he could record it while he kept his mouth shut, and the idiot gave him something. That still doesn’t mean the kid was in the right to go every day after school to private property and/or to fish where a no fishing sign is posted. It just means the guy should have handled it differently that day and even well before when kid first started doing this.

It’s a public pond. Onion Creek is publicly owned and contains the pond. The only thing privately owned by the HOA is the golf course, clubhouse, and parking for golf, tennis courts. Kid was in the right.

You can check out Onion Creek Neighborhood on Google and also Austin Parks and Recreation, specifically Onion Creek Metropolitan Park.
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It was obvious when the cops did nothing. They didn’t even talk to the guy. This story is coming from the mom’s and kid’s POV, and it is purposely leaving out the kid’s past interactions with any adults there and that it is posted private property of an HOA along with a posted no fishing sign out in place by the owners.

Specifically, what past interactions are you talking about?
Our HOA has a no fishing and no swimming sign as well. Some Karen’s were complaining about kids fishing. Then, at a recent meeting, they stated it was unenforceable as the HOA does not own the land that contains the water.

Bottom line is, that pond is public land
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
19625 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 5:21 pm to
Very true
Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
879 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:17 pm to
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He better be glad I'm not that kid's dad.


Well, Lexi is a brat. What are you gonna do about it?

But seriously, you don’t know the entire story. These “gotcha” videos that paint the kids to just be aw shucks innocent victims are totally suspect.

I’m sure there’s way more to this story so just calm down a bit before you start beating up the entire bar tough guy.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9292 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:18 pm to
Sullivan park with the pond is HOA. The other land near it is park of golf course or private property.

At Sullivan Park’s location I don’t see Onion Creek going thru that pond.

The kid goes there every day after school. Do you think this is the first interaction with someone over doing something that is prohibited?

Bring some links if you are correct. You started this thread so back it up. I see signs stating that Sullivan park is owned and maintained by the HOA. I see a no fishing, swimming, or boating sign which would make sense for insurance purposes for the HOA. I don’t see Onion Creek passing thru the pond at Sullivan Park.

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Our HOA has a no fishing and no swimming sign as well. Some Karen’s were complaining about kids fishing. Then, at a recent meeting, they stated it was unenforceable as the HOA does not own the land that contains the water.


You do know that what a HOA owns can differ from one HOA to another?? The golf club also seems to own land around or maybe also in Sullivan Park (if connected to the HOA) and has another similar pond on other side of the course.

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Bottom line is, that pond is public land


You have offered nothing to prove this. ChatGPT is disappointing once again…
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 6:54 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37628 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:49 pm to
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The kid goes there every day after school. Do you think this is the first interaction with someone over doing something that is prohibited?

False premise. We don't know for sure that it is not public. Either way, probably the first time. Most people are not Karen's or Brad's.

By the way, reportedely the adult asked him of had a license, not if he lived there.

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Where Sullivan Park is I don’t see Onion Creek going thru that pond.

Onion Creek is also an area near where this occurred.

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Yes, the pond at Sullivan Park in Austin, Texas, is a public pond.
The park itself is a City of Austin property, and the pond does not belong to any Homeowners Association or private club. As public water within a city park, it is generally accessible to the public, though general city park and state fishing regulations (if applicable) must be followed.

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Here are the details on its status as a public pond:
Public ownership: Sullivan Park is an official city park managed by the Austin Parks and Recreation Department. As part of this city property, the pond and its surrounding area are accessible to the public, unlike a pond on private land or within a homeowners' association.

Recreational use: Being a public pond means it is intended for general public use and recreation. This includes activities like fishing, as indicated by a recent incident in the news concerning a teenager fishing at the pond without issue.

Subject to regulations: As with any public park, use of the pond is subject to city and state regulations. For example, individuals who wish to fish there must adhere to statefishing license requirements.

Not a private amenity: Public ponds differ from amenities found at private residences, apartment complexes, or private communities. For example, a search for "Sullivan" apartments in Austin shows amenities like pools and dog parks, but these are exclusive to residents. The pond at Sullivan Park is open to all citizens.

Public infrastructure: The pond also serves as public stormwater infrastructure, which is maintained by the City of Austin Watershed Protection Department.

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Yes, Sullivan Park is located near the Onion Creek area of Austin. The park's pond is part of this community, and news reports have explicitly mentioned the location as "Sullivan Park near Onion Creek". Onion Creek is both a neighborhood and a creek that runs through the area

Are there two Sullivan's ponds near the Onion Creek area?

This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 6:55 pm
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14196 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:49 pm to
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Who harasses a kid fishing? Stupid.


Who harasses ANYONE fishing? Unless they are on YOUR property why gaf? Fishing is one of the most harmless activities a person can get up to.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9292 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:21 pm to
Are these more ChatGPT facts? Find the facts yourself.

Can you provide links to the actual facts?

This is what the 2 signs on street view state:
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PRIVATE POND
OF CLUB
NO FISHING
NO BOATING
NO SWIMMING


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SULLIVAN PARK
OWNED AND MAINTAINED
BY HOA

HOURS OF OPERATION
DUSK TO DARK

PLEASE KEEP ALL
PETS ON LEASH

ALL PARKING MUST
REMAIN IN STREET

THE GOLF COURSE IS
PRIVATE PROPERTY



When I searched Sullivan Park on the Austin Park’s website this is all that came up -
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Sorry, we couldn’t find any results.
Please try:

Double checking your spelling
Searching for one or two words
Using less specific wording
Can’t find what you’re looking for?
Call 3-1-1 to get all the information or assistance you need about Austin, from the City’s all day everyday information center.

https://www.austintexas.gov/search-pages?search_api_fulltext=Sullivan+Park

These are the parks that start with an “S”

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Salt Springs Neighborhood Park 6401 E William Cannon Dr., Austin, Texas 78744 8.2154

Sanchez School Park 64 Waller St., Austin, Texas 78702 1.3

Scenic Brook Pocket Park 7300 Oak Meadow Drive, Austin, Texas 78736 .8920

Schieffer Tract 3404 Hycreek Dr., Austin, Texas 78723 4.359

Scofield Farms Neighborhood Park 12901 Scofield Farms Dr., Austin, Texas 78727 20.6445

Seiders Springs at Shoal Creek Greenbelt 1380 W 34th St., Austin, Texas 78731 4.22

Sendera Mesa Neighborhood Park 4717 Davis Ln., Austin, Texas 78749 4.62

Shadywood Neighborhood Park 7506 Shadywood Dr., Austin, Texas 2.1700

Shinoak Valley Greenbelt 3900 Dry Creek Dr., Austin, Texas 78731 10.4617

Shipe Neighborhood Park 4400 Avenue G, Austin, Texas 78751 2.616

Shoal Beach at Town Lake Metropolitan Park 707 W Cesar Chavez St., Austin, Texas 78701 13.48

Shoal Creek Greenbelt 2600 N Lamar Blvd., Austin, Texas 78705 94.0926

Silk Oak Neighborhood Park 3204 Silk Oak Dr., Austin, Texas 78748 17.5440

Silver Creek Pocket Park 13007 Silver Creek Dr., Austin, Texas 78727 1.8890

Sir Swante Palm Neighborhood Park 200 N IH 35 Svrd SB, Austin, Texas 78701 3.0170

Slaughter Creek Greenbelt 10003 S 1st St., Austin, Texas 78748 98.0660

Slaughter Creek Neighborhood Park 10413 S IH 35 SVRD NB, Austin, Texas 78747 12.3017

South Austin Island 2205 S Congress Ave., Austin, Texas 78704 0.1389

South Austin Neighborhood Park 1100 Cumberland Rd., Austin, Texas 78704 12.27

South Austin Senior Activity Center 3911 Menchaca Rd., Austin, Texas 78704 4.63

South Austin Tennis Center 1000 Cumberland Rd., Austin, Texas 78704 12.05

South Boggy Creek Greenbelt 7701 Circle S Rd., Austin, Texas 78745 42.2578

Southeast Greenway Greenway 3601 Zach Scott Street, Austin, Texas 78723 31.5349

Southern Pacific Greenbelt 1136 Shady Lane, Austin, Texas 78721 .2920

Southern Walnut Creek Greenbelt 6013 Loyola Ln, Austin, Texas 78724 706.4848

Southland Oaks Neighborhood Park 3505 Green Emerald Ter., Austin, Texas 78739 18.5030

Southwest Greenway Greenbelt 2000 Anchor Ln., Austin, Texas 78723 31.0366

Sparky Pocket Park 3701 Grooms St., Austin, Texas 78705 0.3979

Springbrook Park 1800 Picadilly Rd., Pflugerville, Texas 78664 56.886

Springdale Neighborhood Park 1175 Nickols Ave., Austin, Texas 78721 16.4286

Springdale Farms Greenbelt 735 Springdale Rd., Austin, Texas 78702 .2588

Springwoods Neighborhood Park 9117 Anderson Mill Rd., Austin, Texas 78729 15.4487

St. Edwards Greenbelt 7301 Spicewood Springs Rd., Austin, Texas 78750 79.8

St. Elmo School Park 4312 S 1st St., Austin, Texas 78745 6.17

St. John's Pocket Park 889 Wilks Ave., Austin, Texas 78752 0.971

Steck Valley Greenbelt 8403 Adirondack Trl., Austin, Texas 78759 37.9972

Stephenson Nature Preserve and Outdoor Education Center 7501 Longview Rd., Austin, Texas 78745 147.282

Stillhouse Hollow Nature Preserve 7810 Sterling Dr., Austin, Texas 78731 19.8278

Stonehollow Pocket Park 11604 Stonehollow Dr., Austin, Texas 78758 .5660

Stoney Ridge Neighborhood Park 7000 Moores Crossing Blvd., Austin, Texas 78617 4.01

Stratford Overlook Greenbelt 3006 Stratford Dr., Austin, Texas 78746 0.07

Superstar Button Park 5306 Chico St. Austin, Texas 78721 .1464

Swede Hill Pocket Park 907 E 14th St., Austin, Texas 78702 0.8694

Sweeney Pocket Park 2712 Sweeney Lane, Austin, Texas 78723 .5020

Symphony Square 1101 Red River St., Austin, Texas 78701 3.0108


https://www.austintexas.gov/page/park-directory#s

Update ChatGPT for us.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 7:24 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37628 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:31 pm to
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Update ChatGPT for us.

No need to. As I previously said:
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Austin Parks and Recreation, specifically Onion Creek Metropolitan Park.

That is where the public pond is located. And it is also not far from the Onion Creek golf course.


I removed some stuff because:
I can see that there are two ponds, one being private (HOA) and one being public and are close to each other. Do you know which specific pond he was in? If it’s Sullivan Pond, it is public. If it is another, it’s probably the private one. The news said Sullivan Pond. That’s really what it boils down to in this public versus private pond debate as it pertains to the kid who was innocently fishing.
This post was edited on 11/8/25 at 7:51 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9292 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:04 pm to
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Austin Parks and Recreation, specifically Onion Creek Metropolitan Park.

That is where the pond is located.
that’s not in a neighborhood.

Your original link stated:
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Sullivan Park’s pond,
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Man on video threatens to drown 14-year-old for fishing at a neighborhood pond


Your quotes:
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Yes, the pond at Sullivan Park i
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Sullivan Park is an official city park managed by the Austin Parks and Recreation Department.
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Yes, Sullivan Park is located near the Onion Creek area of Austin


Just keep pivoting. You will be right one day.

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I already gave you of a real life example where HOA signs don’t necessarily mean squat


I have been around several when they mean exactly what they state and owned by HOA or private golf course.

I gave you links to Austin’s website that doesn’t have a Sullivan Park. You just typed out words when you can’t use ChatGPT, which at best in this instance is anecdotal evidence just like my completely experiences with HOAs.

Also from before
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The kid goes there every day after school. Do you think this is the first interaction with someone over doing something that is prohibited?



False premise. We don't know for sure that it is not public. Either way, probably the first time. Most people are not Karen's or Brad's.


I asked you a question. I didn’t state a fact. Talking probabilities. Quit trying to use terms you don’t fully understand. Large language models mess up on false premises. Maybe this is your problem.

Regardless why aren’t there any Shanique’s or Javonique’s??
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