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re: Louisiana is the world's prison capital

Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:03 am to
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:03 am to
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Very true in some aspects, but in other aspects, there are a lot of issues with race that this country should confront (many of which can be seen in this thread). I think there is a better way to have the dialogue than the way BLM is acting. Yet political discourse in this country is at a low in a number of areas.

I totally agree
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:04 am to
Slavery was practiced all over the world, yet the US is the only one still stuck in the past and trying to fix/erase history. The rest of the world has moved on, why can't we?

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:05 am to
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there are a lot of issues with race that this country should confront


well it needs to start with both sides being honest. A higher percentage of black people are racist than whites
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:06 am to
That is purely anecdotal and also completely irrelevant. Both sides have issues they need to fix, stop trying to make this about who is worse.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24295 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:07 am to
This. And if we are going to take that route I can easily say the black racism is only a reaction to white racism.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69576 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:09 am to
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Both sides have issues they need to fix


I completely disagree.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:10 am to
So blacks are racist and whites are perfect angels?
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:11 am to
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Slavery was practiced all over the world, yet the US is the only one still stuck in the past and trying to fix/erase history.


In my opinion, Americas problems today are more related to Jim Crow than the practice of slavery (not to minimize that tragedy).

Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:19 am to
Nah. Racism is a universal human flaw.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78336 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:21 am to
And yet we need more prison space because there are all manner of violent people still wandering this state's streets.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:27 am to
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Violent



We're talking about drug arrests. People desperate after decades of targeted arrests and disenfranchisement. Have at least a modicum of compassion for your fellow man
This post was edited on 3/30/16 at 11:28 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:39 am to
It is a lot easier to just keep locking more people up and ignoring the issue than to actually take a hard look at yourself and admit that you have a problem.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:43 am to
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What will happen to all the drug dealers? I guess they think they will become model citizens also and will get real jobs


Most dealers have jobs.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18853 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:46 am to
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805tiger
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meauxjeaux2
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You're white and was once apart of the system you should have plenty of knowledge to share.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39951 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:46 am to
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Anti-drug policies and laws have had “no measurable impact on supply or use” and cannot be justified on scientific or public health grounds, according to the authors of study commissioned by the Johns Hopkins university and The Lancet.

Dr Chris Beyrer, from Johns Hopkins’ Bloomberg School of Public Health, said prohibition was the basis for many national drug laws - “policies based on ideas about drug use and dependence that are not scientifically grounded”.

“The global 'war on drugs' has harmed public health, human rights and development,” he said.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/30/16 at 11:47 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78336 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:48 am to
There are few truly nonviolent offenders in state prison. If you dig beyond the instant offense or even look at what was reduced or dropped as part of a plea deal, you will find a violent personal history.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18853 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:49 am to
Louisiana is fricked up, period. Multiply that times 10, and we still wouldn't scratch the surface.
This post was edited on 3/30/16 at 11:50 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:56 am to
Once again the issue is that exposure to the criminal justice system does not actually have the deterrent effect we once thought it did. In fact, spending even a small amount time in jail for possession tends to lead to more criminal behavior for a number of reasons. So you are, in part, correct. Most people in jail are not there for drugs alone, but drug charges do tend to create a cycle of criminality that ends in more violent crime.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216201 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 11:58 am to
Louisiana is a sad state overall. Katrina made it worse imo. I say the people that are doing life or are on death row should be dropped off in an Isis stronghold and let them blow people away.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69576 posts
Posted on 3/30/16 at 12:01 pm to
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Most dealers have jobs.


yeh for tax purposes maybe or to prove they have an income. Doesn't mean they will be willing to take the financial hit without looking for other ways to make up the difference...stealing, robbing, etc. Point is they will still be criminals and get arrested.
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