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re: Looks like the state is meeting to discuss legalization of Mary Jane

Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:43 pm to
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2) Colorado shops are selling at 4-5 times the rate of normal street product. Anyone thinking the black market will be eliminated is very wrong at this point.



Let's revisit this stat in a month, 6 months and a year from now.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:45 pm to
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My former company made sure to circulate a memo just after it passed saying all employees are still subject to random drug testing and will be terminated if they test positive for THC.


And the sharks are circling the water waiting to try and make a name for themselves in court room filing wrongful termination suit. Over time companies will relax their policies on THC testing. They may raise the positive tolerance level.

I believe with the exception of certain jobs (drivers, heavy machine operators. NBA players) most companies will only require a pre-employment.

It has taken a long time to get the law to change. It will take a little more time for employers to digest and accept.

But change is coming.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:46 pm to
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There is this newer form of smoking called "dabs" some think it may change some peoples perception of MJ (negatively). It is 85% THC, very strong, but designed to be taken in small doses. I came across it for the first time the other day and it was like first time all over again.



Hash oil has been around for a long time
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:48 pm to
There isn't really a point for the Black market. It will go away for the most part over time. Most of the market will be moving it to states that it's not legal in
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:48 pm to
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And the sharks are circling the water waiting to try and make a name for themselves in court room filing wrongful termination suit.


Wrongful termination for what? CO is a right to work state. They can fire you for smoking pot if they want to.
Posted by Purple Lion
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 9:49 pm to
Agree it's worth revisiting in time. Many factors will play into it, ie how many other states have legalized.

If I'm not crossing the border into Colorado to buy legally, and I can get it in my own state, supply and demand will run it's course and reduce price.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:05 pm to
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CO is a right to work state. They can fire you for smoking pot if they want to.


I think you meant to say Colorado is an "at will" state?

Have you ever fired someone in "at-will" state? There are plenty of Federal Fair Labor laws that supersede state law.

If you don't think employers will relax their policies, you are naive.

Once the policy negatively impacts the bottom line long enough, the rules will change.
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 10:08 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:08 pm to
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There is this newer form of smoking called "dabs" some think it may change some peoples perception of MJ (negatively). It is 85% THC, very strong, but designed to be taken in small doses. I came across it for the first time the other day and it was like first time all over again.

Very strong, I wonder if it's going to take off.

Dabs are pretty popular out here. The biggest problem/controversy so far has been due to explosions and fires from the extraction process(butane).
Posted by iliveinabox
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:09 pm to
Oh boy.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:17 pm to
You are correct that I meant to type at will, not right to work.

Of course employers will likely relax their policies if the want to keep and retain top talent in the state.


I'm just saying no one is going to successfully win a wrongful termination suit because the failed a drug test.
Posted by wish i was tebow
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:20 pm to
Especially when they sign a contract that they agree to the test
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:43 pm to
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There isn't really a point for the Black market.
Don't be naive.

LINK

And cigarettes are legal everywhere.

NY Cigarette Black Market

Massachucetts Cigarette Black Market

Chicago's Cigarette Black Market


Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:55 pm to
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Don't be naive.

LINK

And cigarettes are legal everywhere.

NY Cigarette Black Market

Massachucetts Cigarette Black Market

Chicago's Cigarette Black Market



There is a black market for everything under the sun. Gasoline, clothes, toys... You name it.
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:58 pm to
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Exactly what my post to your comment was about. Just because something is legal doesn't mean you have to do it and if you already can't do it because of your job that's most likely not going to change because it's suddenly legal.



Gotcha. We're speaking the same language then. I work international now and my new company gives zero fricks what I do when I'm home. I was reading my local paper just a few hours ago and saw that one of the towns close to me just opened up for business yesterday. I think I'll have a new stop on my way to the slopes.
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:59 pm to
At $100 for 1/4 ounce??? Even if it passes I will still get my hook up over on Gus Young Ave.
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:08 pm to
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There is a black market for everything under the sun. Gasoline, clothes, toys... You name it


You'll get no argument from me with that statement. I used cigarettes because they most closely relate to marijuana especially when debating those that believe that legalizing marijuana will create a tax revenue utopia with little or no marijuana related crime.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37529 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:17 pm to
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legalizing marijuana will create a tax revenue utopia with little or no marijuana related crime

Well, that would be a ridiculous argument. I don't know anyone claiming that it would end ALL pot related crime. It's relative to what we have now. The black market will never be completely eliminated, but there is no good reason to believe it won't result in a reduction of crime. Smaller black market=less crime(eta-or criminals just move to something else).
This post was edited on 1/15/14 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:26 pm to
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but there is no good reason to believe it won't result in a reduction of crime. Smaller black market=less crime.


Nah...market will just shift. Drug related crime in BR is shifting to the Oxy/LT/Xanax market, all legal drugs.

And the Mafia didn't die out after the 21st amendment. They just found new markets.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37529 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 11:34 pm to
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And the Mafia didn't die out after the 21st amendment. They just found new markets.

They didn't die out, but they are a shell of their former selves. And that's being generous.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/16/14 at 12:24 am to
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New Hampshire House of Representatives endorsed a bill Wednesday that would legalize marijuana in the state.

The vote was a nail-biter, with closely divided legislators initially voting against legalization 170-168 before choosing to vote again, the second time approving legalizing pot with 170 votes.

The bill, HB 492, would decriminalize possession of one ounce of marijuana by adults age 21 or older and allow residents to grow up to six plants. State-licensed stores would be authorized to sell marijuana.


[link=(img)]https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/01/15/new-hampshire-house-votes-to-legalize-pot[/link]
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