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re: Looks like Jason Ard is in a fight to remain sheriff in Livingston Parish

Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:47 am to
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
4638 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:47 am to
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Great work Livingston Parish, you're doing your state proud!



All of the deputies in these incidents were employed under Ard. There are tons more that didn't make the news.

(All news links)

LINK - LPSO deputy arrested for stealing narcotics evidence, firing gun

LINK - Livingston Parish deputy fired after DWI arrest

LINK - Livingston Deputy Fired Over Harassing Phone Calls

LINK - Livingston Parish sheriff: Deputy arrested on second degree battery charge, no longer employed at office

LINK - Police: Livingston deputy charged with child porn trashed key evidence

LINK - Grand jury indicts Livingston Parish deputy on traffic violation in connection with deadly crash

LINK - The Investigators: Livingston Parish deputy arrested, fired after complaint of excessive force

LINK - INVESTIGATIVE UNIT: Children allege LPSO deputy molested them; doctor agrees, but nothing was done

LINK - Livingston sheriff's office employee arrested for escape and DWI, resigns her post

LINK - Amid string of overlooked sex abuse in Livingston Parish, renowned civil rights attorney wants federal probe

LINK - Former deputy Jeremy Brister indicted on sexual conduct with a minor charges

Here's a FB post from Jeremy Brister, Jason Ard's right-hand man in the 2010 election when retired State Trooper Mickey Mcmorris ran against him. Those 2 and Dennis Perkins were an inseparable trio




My absolute favorite Ard quotes:

"Every police officer knows if you don't write it down, it didn't happen...."

Followed up 20 seconds later by:

"... so I took it upon myself to do a verbal investigation"

Imagine that guy being in charge of law enforcement and tax collection for an entire parish

But hey, a win by .16% is still a win
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 8:48 am
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14117 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 8:54 am to
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Are there any rumors floating around that there may have been any election shenanigans? How is it that you guys are completely neck and neck on in person voting and so lopsided in the Mail in ballots. Seems statistically weird


The real issue is 41% mate. That turn out was terrible. 86k registered voters in the parish.
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2883 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:39 am to
Did we ever learn why Brandon Browning abruptly dropped out of the race? That guy was all over FB and doing podcasts, then crickets. Was he threatened? Someone have dirt on him?
Posted by denhamtiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2014
815 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 9:58 am to
Brett was a better candidate then Brandon but rumors around LP were Brandon was going to be Chief Deputy. I don’t know that for certain but I’m sure sarge could answer it.
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14117 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:06 am to
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Brett was a better candidate then Brandon but rumors around LP were Brandon was going to be Chief Deputy. I don’t know that for certain but I’m sure sarge could answer it.


Brett is Sarge. And no, more FB propaganda. He was not in my staff at all. It’s amazing how much people grasp to rumors on FB
Posted by denhamtiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2014
815 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:09 am to
I heard it from someone within the dept. it was true but it was believable being Brandon and step poppy were at lots of campaign stops.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59991 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:09 am to
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LPSO deputy arrested for stealing narcotics evidence, firing gun


LPSO arrested her

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Livingston Parish deputy fired after DWI arrest


LPSO fired him

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Livingston Deputy Fired Over Harassing Phone Calls


LPSO fired him

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Livingston Parish sheriff: Deputy arrested on second degree battery charge, no longer employed at office


Arrested and fired

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Police: Livingston deputy charged with child porn trashed key evidence


Arrested and fired

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Livingston sheriff's office employee arrested for escape and DWI, resigns her post


She was forced to resign

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The Investigators: Livingston Parish deputy arrested, fired after complaint of excessive force


Arrested and fired

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Children allege LPSO deputy molested them; doctor agrees, but nothing was done


This was a domestic situation between a mother and father and the mom hired a doctor on her behalf to get the children. This happens all the time in custody battles and police can’t step in and arrest a father based on just the mother’s words without some solid evidence. I get this one is touchy. I don’t like it because kids, especially young ones can be manipulated in custody battles. I don’t have a good answer for this having lived through similar circumstances. I’m sure other fathers on here can understand these types of situations are not always cut and dry.

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Former deputy Jeremy Brister indicted on sexual conduct with a minor charges


LSPO arrested him (see where the mug shot was taken)


In almost every instance, it was the LPSO who arrested and fired their own. That sounds more like accountability than, let’s say, what’s happened at BRPD and NOPD. Your list actually in a way proves the LPSO is doing its job.

To be clear, LPSO made some mistakes and could be better. I’m not defending them across the board. My stance isn’t to say LPSO is perfect. My stance is it isn’t some hidden pedo ring run by monsters. It’s a police department with human beings in it and wherever humans exist, mistakes and imperfection happen. The fact all these cops were fired kinda shows they tried to correct it.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 10:10 am
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2883 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:16 am to
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Brett is Sarge.


Well, I don't live in LP but several family members do so I follow the politics. I think you were the right man for the job and would have been honored to vote for you. As we all know the real problem is voter apathy. The loudest bitchers on social media are the least likely to vote. Almost as if they think they are more influential on social media than voting.

You came across as genuine, transparent and accessible. Stay relevant and you will be in next election. Ard isn't changing.
Posted by denhamtiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2014
815 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:25 am to
I honestly think ard retires after this term. If so field will be full of candidates
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2751 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:28 am to
Tell me about the investigation the Ard opened up when the father of a young girl came to him when he believed Perkins was breaking the law involving sexual activity with kids.

Or, are you telling me that LPS ONLY opens a file (writes something down) only after evidence is found? When you initiate an investigation don’t you have to notate that somewhere?
Posted by Sarge
whodatmofo
Member since Dec 2008
14117 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:36 am to
You mean it wasn’t true correct? And he only showed at Delatte’s events. Neither him or his pops attended a single one of mine. This is a prime example of what’s wrong in LP politics. That’s why I’m staying in the game to mitigate the garbage being spread. They also made a fake pic of “my staff.” Voters in the LP will not reach out to the opposition for facts. “Well so and so said….so it must be true.” I had one guy picked for my #2 and he still works at LPSO. Crazy huh?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59991 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 10:51 am to
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Or, are you telling me that LPS ONLY opens a file (writes something down) only after evidence is found? When you initiate an investigation don’t you have to notate that somewhere?


No, what I’m saying is police can’t immediately jump on every accusation with public investigative authority. If they did, they’d have to quadruple the size of the force. They did look into allegations and Perkins snaked his way out of it, that’s why Ard was so pissed and went after him. Perkins was lying to his face and to the rest of the department.

Just because we have all the facts now (gathered by LPSO btw) doesn’t mean they existed then.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2751 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:24 am to
Sorry to derail the thread.

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Or, are you telling me that LPS ONLY opens a file (writes something down) only after evidence is found? When you initiate an investigation don’t you have to notate that somewhere?


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No, what I’m saying is police can’t immediately jump on every accusation with public investigative authority. If they did, they’d have to quadruple the size of the force


But this wasn’t just any accusation was it? This was an accusation about someone potentially harming a child AND It was an accusation about one of Ard’s employees AND that accusation was coming from someone in law enforcement.

Sounds like you know a bit about the policy and inner workings of the LP Sheriff’s office. Is it common practice for LPS employees to take complaints about potential criminal activity, ask the person accused if they did it, take “no” as an answer and never open a file on the matter? Or, is that just the case with Ard’s friends?

BTW, in the press conference Ard blamed the complainant for the fact that didn’t happen…
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 11:26 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59991 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:42 am to
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Sounds like you know a bit about the policy and inner workings of the LP Sheriff’s office. Is it common practice for LPS employees to take complaints about potential criminal activity, ask the person accused if they did it, take “no” as an answer and never open a file on the matter? Or, is that just the case with Ard’s friends?


I know inner workings of police procedure. And so would the cop who came forward. He could have requested a case file be opened. All it takes is a formal written complaint. He would know this as an officer. This complaint would be available via a freedom of information request.

If there is one, then a formal investigation is opened. If not, it’s informal.

I’m not saying there WASN’T one, if there wasn’t one, the reporting police officer didn’t write one for a reason.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
4638 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:44 am to
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That sounds more like accountability than, let’s say, what’s happened at BRPD and NOPD. Your list actually in a way proves the LPSO is doing its job.


Yeah they're doing a great job of screening their employees, bro. But don't take my word for it, check out the election results to see what people think.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2751 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:51 am to
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I’m not saying there WASN’T one, if there wasn’t one, the reporting police officer didn’t write one for a reason.


You don’t have to say if there was one or not, Ard did. There wasn’t one, He said it was a “verbal” investigation. I also don’t think it’s the reporting persons job to open a case. That would be the officer that took the complaint, in this case Jason Ard.

Here is my issue, are you telling me if Livingston Parish law enforcement is told that there is a potential crime involving children, it’s standard practice to open an official case following official procedures ONLY if the person making the complaint requests for them to do so? There is no obligation independent of the complainant to ensure that department procedures are followed and this is handled by the book?

This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 11:53 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59991 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:53 am to
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Yeah they're doing a great job of screening their employees, bro


Get off your high horse.

Have you even looked into how many people are applying to be policemen these days and how many we actually NEED?

if you had any clue whatsoever you wouldn’t have implied something so retarded.

Police forces across the board are suffering shortages. While keeping that in mind, the uniform usually, not always, attracts particular types of people. I get that.

So for people to complain that bad apples get through is naive. Of course they do. These same people would cry we don’t have enough officers when shite hits their fans.

It’s the same issue with teachers. We can’t get good teachers in LP because these tards who ran the parish were only interested in lining their pockets with developers instead of trying to attract big businesses.

Now we are a bed and breakfast parish getting THREE, that’s right, FRICKING THREE applications a year at job fairs because we can’t pay them with all these awesome new homes and property taxes.

Yet I bet the tards will seal clap about “MUH teachers!” when the rooster comes home to roost.

LP was the last true red parish in SE LA and we’ve been invaded on every side by city tards, how could anyone hold any sheriff to the standard of the 1980s or 1990s when LP today is closer to BR 15 years ago?

Sarge should count his blessings because this parish is on a downward trend culturally and he’d be the one everyone would be shitting on 4 years from now because the office itself sucks and is unforgiving in todays social media age.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 11:57 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59991 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 11:54 am to
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There wasn’t one, He said it was a “verbal” investigation.


And that isn’t on Ard, but the cop reporting. So ask yourself why he didn’t?

Think for a second.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119327 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:01 pm to
Are you this guy’s deputy? Geez
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2751 posts
Posted on 10/20/23 at 12:04 pm to
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And that isn’t on Ard, but the cop reporting. So ask yourself why he didn’t? Think for a second.


Just to be abundantly clear, if I go to Jason Ard and tell him a murder occurred but I tell him I don’t want to file an official complaint, it’s ok for him to act like it never happened? It’s utterly incumbent on the person reporting and the LSPO has zero obligation to progress it? Even in the case of child abuse?


This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 12:35 pm
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