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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:28 pm to
None of us have the power to change the first post, go bitch at the OP and get him to change it.

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God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference


Posted by Hickok
Htown
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:31 pm to
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If you are upset about lies, then I advise you to stay out of politics. If you are upset about war and death, then I doubly advise you to stay out of global politics. Congratulations on discovering just how mean politics is.

Upset? It’s past your bed time boy. Your unwillingness to simply acknowledge the fact that all I’m trying to do is correct a lie proves that your thought process is not only incoherent, but simply retarded. And your willingness to push a war with China shows that you are nothing more than a keyboard warrior. All I said was that the first thing posted was a lie, and you have the dumbass comment of “you don’t know politics”…
Posted by BambiisDead
Member since Mar 2023
188 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:36 pm to
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Hickok


That was a whole lot of ideology, and not a whole lot of politics.

Global Politics is a nihilistic calculus in which nations either compete or become prey.

Your naive fury over a lie is meaningless. By all means, stay up all night and cry about it. It will change nothing.
Posted by Hickok
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:37 pm to
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You are really caught up about this lie aren’t you? LOL

I’m just assuming people come here for information, truthful information.
Posted by Hickok
Htown
Member since Jan 2013
2974 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:41 pm to
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That was a whole lot of ideology, and not a whole lot of politics. Global Politics is a nihilistic calculus in which nations either compete or become prey. Your naive fury over a lie is meaningless. By all means, stay up all night and cry about it. It will change nothing.

You seem to know a lot about politics, so you win. Keep up with the lies and stack up the bodies ole boy!!
Posted by BambiisDead
Member since Mar 2023
188 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:44 pm to
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Keep up with the lies and stack up the bodies ole boy!!


That is our objective, yes.

Putting America First can be a messy affair, but it is never wrong.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 10:45 pm
Posted by NOLATiger163
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Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:51 pm to
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While I cannot say for certain, it would be surprising if the offensive begins at Bakhmut
I'm a complete amateur, but I think one of the plausible scenarios is that first the Ukes drive into a Russian flank to force them away from, or encircle them near, Bakhmut, because they know the Russians have invested a ton of prestige and propaganda into it and therefore will throw all they've got to prevent that; and then second the Ukes, having reduced Russian reserves, launch a second, larger offensive to drive to the Sea of Azov to cut off land supply to Crimea. But again, what do I know?
Posted by Hickok
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:53 pm to
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Putting America First can be a messy affair, but it is never wrong.

Never wrong.. gulf of tonkin, wmd’s in Iran, fast and furious guns to cartels, Iran contra, ruby ridge, not going after Russia in WW2.. you’re the politician and you’ve got it all right. I wish I could be like you when I grow up.
Also stop upvoting your own posts, it makes you look weak, but you know that, being a political genius and all.
Posted by BambiisDead
Member since Mar 2023
188 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:55 pm to
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wmd’s in Iran, fast and furious guns to cartels,


What in the world

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not going after Russia in WW2


I'll give you this one, it was a mistake to not attack the USSR while we had nuclear exclusivity.
Posted by BambiisDead
Member since Mar 2023
188 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:58 pm to
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think one of the plausible scenarios is that first the Ukes drive into a Russian flank to force them away from, or encircle them near, Bakhmut, because they know the Russians have invested a ton of prestige and propaganda into it


This is a fair and plausible assessment. The modern Russians are a fragile people, hung up on imagined ideas of power and empire.

I agree that crushing that would be useful.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28496 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:59 pm to
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Hickok


How dare you spoil their little soirée by questioning the morality and economics of a non-NATO corrupt money laundering machine versus our greatest enemy since the British in the Revolutionary War. You must be a putin lap dog to offend their sense of nobility.
Posted by BambiisDead
Member since Mar 2023
188 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:02 pm to
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NPComb


You act as if Ukraine being a corrupt money laundering machine is supposed to dissuade me from supporting them.

I will support anyone who conversely supports Americans interests, I don't care if they are Nazis, Communists, Quakers, Furries or Lizard People.

Anyone who will advance the interests of the United States has my attention.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 11:03 pm
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:03 pm to
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We aren't ready to confront China in the Nine Dash Line until the Navy's major refit is complete by early next year.

Then we can smash China to pieces


It's really hard to take you seriously when you say shite like this. Nearly every single military program for the past decade plus has completely underwhelmed, is well over budget, and way behind schedule. That's before we even start talking about the state of the military, most of good guys have headed for the exit and we're taking any warm body at this point.

I have no doubt a conflict with China is coming but we certainly won't be ready by early next year and I have no interest in watching American servicemen sinking to the bottom of the South China Sea. The military needs a complete overhaul before we're ready to take on China on their home turf.



Posted by Hickok
Htown
Member since Jan 2013
2974 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:03 pm to
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I'll give you this one

But will you give me this:
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U.S. president Joe Biden, speaking from the G20 summit in Bali, said that it was "unlikely" that the missile was fired from Russia

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Or is the lie so “political” that it’s not worth simply admitting to…
If you’d take a breath and understand that I am pro most of the things you believe and that I think that blantent lies hurt our cause you might actually find out that I’m not an a-hole. I just simply think that we should keep truth in the reporting.
Posted by BambiisDead
Member since Mar 2023
188 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:06 pm to
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TexasForever


I mean, you literally just repeated what I said, apart from some ideological fears of irrelevant culture stuff.

The 2nd Pacific War won't be won by men with rifles, but by ships, missles and aircraft.

That's why the refit is underway.

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on China on their home turf.


The Nine Dash Line is not "China's home turf".
Posted by BambiisDead
Member since Mar 2023
188 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:11 pm to
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Hickok


It seems you are upset over nothing to me.

Everyone knows the Ukrainians were either incorrect or failed in their psyop, depending on whatever you believe.

I'm saying that whatever you believe, it doesn't matter, because it is in Americas interest to stir up trouble against Russia wherever possible, given our need to keep them busy while we prepare to deal with China.
Posted by Hickok
Htown
Member since Jan 2013
2974 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:17 pm to
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It seems you are upset over nothing to

The only thing I’m upset with is that you constantly and consistently upvote your own post, I don’t know if you lack confidence in what you say (proven by you willingly going with a lie), or if this is your first time with an internet. Either way it’s not a good look.
As far as stirring up trouble. Why don’t you get off your keyboard and get over there and stir it up yourself. I dropped in to point out a factual lie and you come back with how “we’re” going to murder every country you disagree with.
Posted by BambiisDead
Member since Mar 2023
188 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:20 pm to
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Hickok


Nah, I still don't get what you are upset about.

You keep bring up this weird ideological stuff that has nothing to do with global politics.

Its time to put aside your emotions and feelings, and start thinking objectively.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 11:21 pm
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:22 pm to
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I mean, you literally just repeated what I said, apart from some ideological fears of irrelevant culture stuff.

You think the physical, mental, and emotional capabilities of our servicemen is irrelevant culture stuff?

My brother is a doctor in the Army and he is in disbelief at the quality of people they're pushing through. I would be pretty surprised if the Navy is any different.

You said we would be ready to "smash China to pieces" by early next year and I am calling bullshite on that...not even close.

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The Nine Dash Line is not "China's home turf".


Ok, you're right..China would have no logistical advantages fighting us in the South China Sea. The only potential saving grace is that Japan desperately needs a war to save their crumbling economy.
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
2949 posts
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:24 pm to
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The only thing I’m upset with is that you constantly and consistently upvote your own post


He sure does, instantly, every single time.
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