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re: Landrieu vs. Lee. Who is a better man?

Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by El Magnifico
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:27 pm to
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fightin tigers
You sound like an ignoramus
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:28 pm to
People built and will continue to build monuments for Lee.

Landrieu will try to build a monument of himself.

Beware of people that build monuments of themselves.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:29 pm
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:29 pm to
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Lee was a top graduate of the United States Military Academy
No, he was THE top graduate.
It is my understanding that he is the only graduate in the history of the Academy to have not received a single demerit. That is fricking amazing.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:29 pm to
How does that matter? Was it still legal in those state?

I'm not saying everyone in the north was against it, I'm not saying everyone in the south was for it.

Just saying that Lee took a leadership role in a war that was fought to maintain the rights to own other human beings.

What was the first southern state to ratify the 13th?
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Member since Feb 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:31 pm to
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Saying he didn't fight for it, well that is factually incorrect.

YES, I am saying Lee did NOT fight for slavery as a fact. He fought for his home state of Virginia and that is all there is to it. Had Virginia gone with the north in april, of '61, then Robert E. Lee would have been the 18th president of the U.S. and it would not have taken 4 years to end that war.
Posted by Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:33 pm to
Bottom line is I only put a few men above Robert E. Lee. You and Mitch don't even come close.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:39 pm to
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YES, I am saying Lee did NOT fight for slavery as a fact. He fought for his home state of Virginia and that is all there is to it.


So Himmler, who exterminated Jews in Nazi Germany, wasn't that bad a guy because he believed in Germany?
Posted by Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Member since Feb 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:44 pm to
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Just saying that Lee took a leadership role in a war that was fought to maintain the rights to own other human beings.

Wrong. Lee's sole reason was that he could not fight against his own family and home state of Virginia. Please read his memoirs.

ETA: Had Virginia gone with the north, you would be praising him. That is how thin the line was.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:45 pm
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:45 pm to
Robert's was bigger
Posted by Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Member since Feb 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:47 pm to
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So Himmler,

Are you serious???
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:49 pm to
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quote:YES, I am saying Lee did NOT fight for slavery as a fact. He fought for his home state of Virginia and that is all there is to it.

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So Himmler, who exterminated Jews in Nazi Germany, wasn't that bad a guy because he believed in Germany?

No. Lee was not a bad guy and there was no genocide of slaves in the south.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76268 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:49 pm to
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Had Virginia gone with the north, you would be praising him. That is how thin the line was.



Yes. HE FOUGHT FOR THE WRONG SIDE.

As a Virginian, he is a great citizen. As a human, he helped his state fight for the right to own other human beings.
Posted by Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Member since Feb 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:49 pm to
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fightin tigers

Nice OT handle. Please tell me where it was derived? I'm waiting.

ETA: Sorry, it's getting late and I had to play that card. Good discussion anyway! But, I'm still waiting.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:51 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:50 pm to
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Are you serious???



Yes. By your reasoning he should be forgiven because he was just doing what is right by his homeland.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76268 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:51 pm to
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Nice OT handle. Please tell me where it was derived? I'm waiting.


Red herring much
Posted by Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Member since Feb 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:52 pm to
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Red herring much

Maybe.. but I'm still waiting.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76268 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 10:57 pm to
Do you want me to defend how I am better than Lee or Landrieu because of how the LSU mascots were named?

We are probably still judging different levels of shitbags when I am introduced.

Am I the best shitbag? Who knows. I just know I never fought to kill people so I could own someone else.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Dont_Call_Me_RAY
Member since Feb 2017
1439 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 11:03 pm to
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I just know I never fought to kill people so I could own someone else.

So shallow and self righteous

Of all the millions of poor souls who lost their lives to their own brothers, how many do you think were actual fighting to kill in order to own someone else?

I think it is time now to show some respect for those that were thrust into that conflict. And the Great Robert E. Lee was one of them.

ETA: Good night. And good fight.
This post was edited on 5/11/17 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Friar Tuck
Planet Earth
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/11/17 at 11:08 pm to
Y'all might as well be trying to teach a pig to sing. smh
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76268 posts
Posted on 5/11/17 at 11:13 pm to
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I think it is time now to show some respect for those that were thrust into that conflict. And the Great Robert E. Lee was one of them.



As you said, he chose to side with Virginia. He wasn't "thrust" into shite.
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