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re: Judge gives guy 50 years no parole for drug charge

Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:51 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296383 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 10:51 am to
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Sounds like we should put these dealers out of business, amirite?

Heads exploding
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:17 am to
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chattabama


You're talking out of school. Addressing the problem by throwing down your personal beliefs as fact puts you in place were you can't be taken seriously. Quite frankly, you sound stupid. Your zeal does not give your opinion merit no matter how strongly you feel. Regurgitating things you learned in dare does not strengthen your position.

The scary thing is we have people in a position to influence laws who hold the same uninformed opinion as yourself.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 11:18 am
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:24 am to
a bit of overkill, eh?

a sane sentence would run between 7-20 yrs?

the dealers who are selling that, will just be more careful, they won't stop sellin...

the courts are dumber than a box of rocks
Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:42 am to
quote:

shite he was selling was probably cut with half-baked fentanyl and rat poison. 

Pretty much attempted murder by scum distributors of these products, IMO.



Because it's good business practice to kill off potential repeat customers? Yeah, that makes sense.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:45 am to
Glad he is behind bars for a long time.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 11:00 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296383 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:46 am to
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the dealers who are selling that, will just be more careful, they won't stop sellin.

We have dealers because there is a huge market for drugs. Lock one up, another steps in because the opportunity will still be there
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
992 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 11:52 am to
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There are more effective ways to fight drug use than mass incarceration.


The mass incarceration efforts in this country were never about the good of the country or its citizens. It was, and still is about keeping for-profit prisons full in order to maximize profit for the government and people/companies that own the prisons. The US won't legalize drugs until they are certain that they can get more money by legalization than they currently do by extorting money from the most vulnerable members of our society. It's sad that people believe this initiative was ever about anything other than money. The US government doesn't give a shite about it's citizens which is why they will continue to use violence to kidnap and incarcerate and ruin the lives of it's non violent citizens all under the guise of "we're helping you". Wake the frick up people.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:06 pm to
Meanwhile, jared gets 15 years for child porn and having sex with minors.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:26 pm to
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Meanwhile, jared gets 15 years for child porn and having sex with minors.


Well, he was rich so he was able to buy down his sentence with cash. A couple hundred thousand per kiddo if I remember correctly.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:32 pm to
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This sentence certainly doesn't fit the crime. Nobody forces people to buy/abuse drugs. Legalize and regulate it, but don't waste taxpayer's money on putting a guy behind bars for 50 years for a nonviolent drug charge.

Utterly absurd for a life sentence for a victimless crime.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:36 pm to
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“I am aware that the change in the sentencing provisions is not the only factor involved in the rise of heroin, but I also know that when the penalty was life imprisonment, we didn’t have as many heroin dealers and users on every street corner selling this poison to our citizens,” the judge said.


Judge is clueless. The spike is directly related to the feds clamping down on oxycotin which jacked up the price. Heroin is a cheaper alternative.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Judge is clueless. The spike is directly related to the feds clamping down on oxycotin which jacked up the price. Heroin is a cheaper alternative.


They changed the way oxy is manufactured. It can no longer be injected or smoked. The spike (if you even want to call it a spike) is directly related to new oxy.

Fun fact, profits fell by nearly 80% when the change was made.

Remind me again who is the real criminal...
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23429 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:43 pm to
If anyone's interested, a live accounting of the city council meeting is going on at

LINK

Little to no opposition is being offered. The vote should be happening probably within an hour or so.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:48 pm to
The world is already overpopulated we need to make it easier for the idiots to thin themselves out via Self-Darwinism aka OD'ing
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:52 pm to
Glad that thug is behind bars for a long time. 


There are a lot of affluent people that use drugs. Don't be fooled into believing it's only "thugs". Some of the very people who are diehard proponents for stiff drug penalties/laws use drugs in a recreational capacity. All of this is politically motivated.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23429 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:01 pm to
The NOLA city council just votes 7-0 in favor. Marijuana possession is officially decriminalized.
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:13 pm to
Why do I get the feeling that they will find a way to frick this up.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94756 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:25 pm to
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Legalize and regulate heroin?


This is the logical end of libertarianism taken to an extreme. I agree that grown folks ought to be free to do what they want if it isn't hurting anyone else.

Heroin is one of those issues that makes that position tough to defend. Personally, I would be okay with it if they could find a way to keep me from paying for these choices. But, honestly, we already are, plus the law enforcement/corrections infrastructure on top of it.

So, I'm torn on:

quote:

You're shitting me right?


No - those in the legalization movement are not. And, it shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

Cocaine, meth, ecstasy, heroin - these are dangerous drugs, but freedom is a two way street. If I want to be left alone, I have to accept I might have to leave others alone.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:28 pm to
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I would be okay with it if they could find a way to keep me from paying for these choice


So are you cool with paying for people who smoke or sit around all day pouring cheeseburgers in their face?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94756 posts
Posted on 3/17/16 at 1:30 pm to
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So are you cool with paying for people who smoke or sit around all day pouring cheeseburgers in their face?


Not really. But I am, anyway. There is no police force going around trying to stop people from doing that, amping up the costs even further though, right?

You'll at least agree that makes those choices cheaper for me right now, doesn't it?

ETA: Did you read everything I wrote?
This post was edited on 3/17/16 at 1:31 pm
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