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re: Jeff Daniels speech about the greatest countries in the world
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:35 pm to shinerfan
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:35 pm to shinerfan
quote:I've been to Europe many times, and I am telling the truth.
Either you've never been to Europe or you're consciously lying.
Claiming all of Europe at a certain income level experiences life in a certain way is just as ignorant as thinking San Francisco is the same as Cleveland is the same as Monroe.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 11:11 am
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Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:52 pm to shinerfan
quote:Bit larger than that. 1000-1200 sf is pretty common.
Either you've never been to Europe or you're consciously lying. The norm for the European middle class is multiple generations living in 6-800 sq ft house/apt. They are awed by our standard of living.
In the states we call that tiny.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Look at that GDP per capita chart closely. You Louisiana people should be getting out the pitchforks and the torches. Louisiana’s GDP per capita is higher than every southern state other than Texas and Virginia. We know what drives the economy in northern VA and Texas is a whole other country. LA higher GDP per capita than FL, NC, GA, TN, AL, etc. yet ranks lower than them in all other metrics.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:21 am to Gravitiger
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Tell me where the words "inalienable" and "Creator" are in the Bill of Rights.
It was in the pre preamble, a document called the Declaration of Independence. The purpose of the Bill of Rights was to protect the inalienable/unalienable (If you read some of the original manuscripts both were used by various "fore-fathers" during the drafting). The intent of the Bill of Rights is to proclaim the rights which are inalienable and cannot be legislated. It's not the government saying here is what you can do, but rather you cannot legislate these things that we just waged war over being legislated.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:13 am to AwesomeSauce
quote:Which is not in any way part of our government. It was superceded by the Articles of Confederation and later Constitution. Neither of which mention "inalienable rights" or a "Creator."
It was in the pre preamble, a document called the Declaration of Independence.
quote:No, the purpose of the BOR was to get the Constitution passed by various state legislatures.
The purpose of the Bill of Rights was to protect the inalienable/unalienable (If you read some of the original manuscripts both were used by various "fore-fathers" during the drafting).
quote:That's literally what it is. "Congress shall make no law..." "The right of the people shall not be infringed..."
It's not the government saying here is what you can do, but rather you cannot legislate these things that we just waged war over being legislated.
The Revolutionary War was not fought over the right to free speech, religion, etc. It was fought over no taxation without representation.
This post was edited on 3/8/22 at 11:29 am
Posted on 3/8/22 at 11:32 am to Gravitiger
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Which is not in any way part of our government.
You've either never studied the foundation or had any dealings with constitutional law which would grant you the ability to claim ignorance, or you are being disingenuous. The framers absolutely used the ideas and principles of the Declaration as a foundation for the Constitution and as a framework for how to structure the government moving forward.
quote:Holy frick... You are under the impression the sole purpose of the BOR was to make some representatives happy so their state would ratify it?
No, the purpose of the BOR was to get the Constitution passed by various state legislatures.
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It was fought over no taxation without representation.
No. That was a final straw, but that is not the only reason.
People who spoke against the king, didn't surrender their sword to the king, and didn't have the same religion as the king were not treated well. Speaking ill and/or not doing the crowns bidding was cause for seizure of all assets foreign and domestic, imprisonment, and even death. Those points sound kind of familiar? Almost like the BoR you claim have nothing to do with anything?!
To be this loud and this wrong on a subject can only be ignorance (educate yourself) or purposeful deformation of the facts. Hopeful it's the former, as one can overcome ignorance.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 12:57 am to AwesomeSauce
You are wrong.
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