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re: I've been reading up on the Napoleonic Wars as of late...
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:45 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:45 pm to RollTide1987
I haven’t hit this phase yet but think I’m getting there. Are there any books, podcasts, docs you’d consider musts for beginner?
I’m a pretty quick consumer of info so more is better than less.
I’m a pretty quick consumer of info so more is better than less.
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Posted on 6/20/21 at 4:58 pm to blowmeauburn
I recommend that everyone read ‘Napoleon: A Life’ by Andrew Roberts. Really amazing book and full of so many tidbits of fascinating information that are never mentioned in the general cultural knowledge of Napoleon.
For example, Napoleon kidnapped and arrested the Pope. I had no idea that popes had ever been kidnapped/arrested, much less by Napoleon..
For example, Napoleon kidnapped and arrested the Pope. I had no idea that popes had ever been kidnapped/arrested, much less by Napoleon..
This post was edited on 6/20/21 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 6/20/21 at 5:22 pm to RollTide1987
You have to remember the difference in fighting styles. We had an estimate 20-30% casualty rate among the whole colony population during King Phillips War (aka Metacoms war) and 10-15 % of all adult males killed with the years of fighting. If he could have made a few more alliances he would have driven us into the sea.
King Phillips War
As a result we learned from the Indians and developed a very different fighting style that lasted all the way into WW2. Even in the civil war we didn’t just line up and march at each other like they did in Napoleonic Wars, with the generals standing safely back on ridges moving soldiers around like chess pieces. They never carried about causality rates, etc. Plus the officers were all typically upper class and foot soldiers people on front line low class. They were disposable to the officer class.
More wealth more power means more troops typically victory.
This bullshite continued into WW1 until huge section of armies said enough with this bullshite and rebelled. I think the German rank soldiers and allied soldiers starting meeting making their own peace in some areas and shooting officers etc. The French mutiny is well known but there were a lot more than commonly believed that forced changes in the disposable soldier attitude.
WW 1 mutiny
King Phillips War
As a result we learned from the Indians and developed a very different fighting style that lasted all the way into WW2. Even in the civil war we didn’t just line up and march at each other like they did in Napoleonic Wars, with the generals standing safely back on ridges moving soldiers around like chess pieces. They never carried about causality rates, etc. Plus the officers were all typically upper class and foot soldiers people on front line low class. They were disposable to the officer class.
More wealth more power means more troops typically victory.
This bullshite continued into WW1 until huge section of armies said enough with this bullshite and rebelled. I think the German rank soldiers and allied soldiers starting meeting making their own peace in some areas and shooting officers etc. The French mutiny is well known but there were a lot more than commonly believed that forced changes in the disposable soldier attitude.
WW 1 mutiny
Posted on 6/20/21 at 5:23 pm to Penrod
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It's a good thing the American Revolution was before Wellesley hit his prime, because if he had been here we would all be speaking British.
They wouldn’t have wasted Wellesley on the colonies. Also, the British beat the Colonials in almost every single battle. The problem was that it was impossible to actually vanquish the revolution, and it was impractical to go on fighting forever. I doubt that great generalship would have changed any of that.
I've been on a reading kick on the revolution, the founding fathers and the early republic. I read recently that they did try to get Wellington involved in a U.S. campaign. (I think it was at the end of the War of 1812.) Apparently he agreed to serve if called upon, but said it was pretty much a fool's errand at that point to try the wage an offensive war on U.S. turf and recommended against it so it was not implemented.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 5:25 pm to crash1211
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The British military have a knack for taking credit for things that they weren't necessarily responsible for. You see it time in time again in their history books.
I love the WWII doc WWII in HD Colour but you'd think the Americans didn't exist.
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