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re: Is marijuana a gateway drug to increasingly bad issues?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:33 pm to cas4t
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:33 pm to cas4t
I agree with both Sarge and cas4t.
There is definitely something in people that are willing to break the law to get marijuana that also allows them to break the law and get harder drugs.
It definitely can speed up this process if they have no issues with the illegality of substances and hang around other folks, such as dealers, that have the same mindset.
However, those people would find hard drugs anyway.
Some people drink their asses off but won't go near illegal substances, even weed. I knew lots of guys like that in college from Mississippi. If it were legal though, they'd smoke like it was nothing.
However, I also agree that its naive to think that the feeling of being "stoned" leads to harder drug use. It feels nothing like coke, they are opposites. If you smoke pot all day every day for a month you can stop cold turkey and be fine, you won't need to numb your pain with pills. People are absolutely not chasing the weed dragon down the path to hard opiates or narcotics.
Honestly, once the stigma is gone and its legal for adults, it will be like alcohol except with 0 ODs and far less abuse.
There is definitely something in people that are willing to break the law to get marijuana that also allows them to break the law and get harder drugs.
It definitely can speed up this process if they have no issues with the illegality of substances and hang around other folks, such as dealers, that have the same mindset.
However, those people would find hard drugs anyway.
Some people drink their asses off but won't go near illegal substances, even weed. I knew lots of guys like that in college from Mississippi. If it were legal though, they'd smoke like it was nothing.
However, I also agree that its naive to think that the feeling of being "stoned" leads to harder drug use. It feels nothing like coke, they are opposites. If you smoke pot all day every day for a month you can stop cold turkey and be fine, you won't need to numb your pain with pills. People are absolutely not chasing the weed dragon down the path to hard opiates or narcotics.
Honestly, once the stigma is gone and its legal for adults, it will be like alcohol except with 0 ODs and far less abuse.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 2:34 pm
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:37 pm to Grim
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I smoke a couple grams per day and have had no adverse effects, not even memory loss. Looking forward to smoking a couple bowls during the LSU bama game this saturday
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:47 pm to Old Sarge
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I am basing my statements on empirical evidence
Simply because you happen to know some people who's life spiraled out of control does not mean you have empirical evidence. You're just regurgitating shite you heard in DARE.
An overwhelming majority of people who use weed do not go on to abuse other substances.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:50 pm to Barf
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An overwhelming majority of people who use weed do not go on to abuse other substances.
I've not said anything to the contrary
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Simply because you happen to know some people who's life spiraled out of control does not mean you have empirical evidence
You obviously haven't got a clue about what is or isn't empirical evidence
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heard in DARE
This is stupid and shows you are a child
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:53 pm to Meauxjeaux
Damn right its all marijuana's fault. If people would have never got that first simple poss charge their lives would still be on track. Once they had that first arrest for a dime bag they gave up hope and their lives spiraled down hill
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:55 pm to Meauxjeaux
Dab Life is my life.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:57 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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Damn right its all marijuana's fault. If people would have never got that first simple poss charge their lives would still be on track. Once they had that first arrest for a dime bag they gave up hope and their lives spiraled down hill
Nope, but it certainly didn't help.
I'm glad those kids getting dime bag possession charges are off our streets though! Those are some dangerous people! Right officer?!
Posted on 11/13/15 at 2:59 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Honestly, once the stigma is gone and its legal for adults, it will be like alcohol except with 0 ODs and far less abuse.
And I agree with this statement
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:03 pm to Old Sarge
No, you are using a flawed line of thinking that is not supported by anything. You're also letting your friends off the hook for just making bad decisions.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:14 pm to cas4t
What is my flawed line of thinking?
Quote me directly please
I'll be waiting
Quote me directly please
I'll be waiting
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:18 pm to Old Sarge
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But there is a strong chance at some point the guy meeting you at the corner store to give you that week or months supply of grass will do that exact thing at some point in time.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:24 pm to Old Sarge
I don't have to quote you directly. You believe exposure to weed resulted in exposure of harder drugs (true), which resulted in doing harder drugs (not true). I don't believe that's the case because I think that is making excuses for people who clearly are bad decision makers. I think they prob were just curious and have it a whirl and caught an addiction. But in no way shape or form does pot make you want to try a drug that is completely different than pot. The logic is flawed, at best.
Just because their weed guy had meth doesn't mean the weed made them want to try meth. Weed never put a gun to their head and sent them into the projects to buy meth.
How about some personal accountability instead of creating some inaccurate web of excuses.
Just because their weed guy had meth doesn't mean the weed made them want to try meth. Weed never put a gun to their head and sent them into the projects to buy meth.
How about some personal accountability instead of creating some inaccurate web of excuses.
This post was edited on 11/13/15 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:25 pm to Old Sarge
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What is my flawed line of thinking?
For one, your "empirical evidence" is not empirical evidence. They are observations such as seeing a few individuals that shop at your local grocery store get killed in a car accidents over the course of a few years. By your logic everyone should stop shopping at that store because it leads to death via automobile. To be empirical you would have had to have studied multiple cases, taken detailed notes, and in those notes found a direct correlation between smoking "grass" and doing harder drugs.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:28 pm to cas4t
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Just because their weed guy had meth doesn't mean the weed made them want to try meth. Weed never put a gun to their head and sent them into the projects to buy meth
A major issue is lying to our youth and telling them that Weed is some major gateway drug that will almost certainly lead to death or jail. Once young adults figure out that was all a bunch of BS, they start questioning all of the other stories they were told about drugs. Would be much better off to be honest about weed and distinguish the difference between it and Heroin, Cocaine, and Meth.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:29 pm to cas4t
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which resulted in doing harder drugs (not true)
I never said or implied this. I implied that they had a higher probability of being exposed to harder drugs
Posted on 11/13/15 at 3:32 pm to Mr. Wayne
You don't understand empirical evidence
Memory, testimony, observation are ALL methods of obtaining empirical evidence
Memory, testimony, observation are ALL methods of obtaining empirical evidence
Posted on 11/13/15 at 6:03 pm to TheCaterpillar
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