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re: Imagine a world without attorneys

Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:53 pm to
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You really have no idea what it is you are asking for.


what is it that I'm "asking for"?
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:54 pm to
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Just look at the European monarchies of the Middle Ages


I've been looking at the peoples' court instead. looks like it could work ok.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:56 pm to
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fricked unfairly constantly


Unlike now where best case scenario, you pay top dollar for a fair outcome.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14363 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:58 pm to
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I've been looking at the peoples' court instead. looks like it could work ok.


Guess who the judge on people's court is?

Wait for it.....


It's coming....


A LAWYER.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:00 pm to
What court? There are no attorneys
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:02 pm to
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Guess who the judge on people's court is? Wait for it..... It's coming.... A LAWYER.


are you saying that a "common" person couldn't be a judge? in fact,,,,i believe that the state just voted against the "common" man being a judge just a few years ago. reason being is that the bill was written by.......you guessed it.....an atty.

here's how it was written (basically)- in order to become a judge......you must first be an atty for at least 10 years. it was voted unanimously.

however, I ask you what the outcome would have been if it was worded like so:

in order to become a judge......you must first be an atty.

my guess is that the people of the great state of La would have unanimously voted it down as they didn't know that you actually didn't have to be an atty.

my opinion.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60954 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:03 pm to
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what is it that I'm "asking for"?
320 million citizens to protect and represent themselves against legal infringements in a country with an enormous economy and multibillion dollar corporations, a diverse population, diverse jobs, with diverse income and resources, and expanding government
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
82846 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:03 pm to
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for instance........I have to wear this ridiculously hot set of coveralls that are fire retardant because I'm fairly certain that companies got sued.




god damn those attorneys trying to keep you from getting burnt to a crisp!
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:04 pm to
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expanding government


where have you been? this is happening now.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92623 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:05 pm to
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Please tell me where personal injury attorneys fit in?


I was a personal injury attorney - a lifetime ago it seems.

If another person or company harms you with their activities - if there wasn't a civil court system, you would have to ask them nicely to make you whole. If they didn't, you could choose boycott, telling everyone you know about them, vandalism and/ or physical violence against them.

I'm not going to defend the massive advertising firms who are personally repulsive to me - even when I was in one, I blanched at some of the advertising (and the firm I was in was trying to keep it classy back then - they're still around, but have gone more "Morris Bart" in their approach - particularly as they have had to compete with him since I left.)

Every profession has it. Doctors have mega-advertisers and sleazy ads. Accountants have it with the tax software ads. Lawyers were pioneers in this category of sleaze, no question, and they are generally high profile, high volume and extraordinarily easy to parody.

But, to pretend everything would be hunky dory without lawyers is nonsense. The cops would run roughshod over every single person. And that's just for starters.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60954 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

where have you been? this is happening now
ummm that is what i said
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14363 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:07 pm to
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are you saying that a "common" person couldn't be a judge?


In small claims court like Peoples Court, possibly.

To decide multimillion dollar ip disputes between international companies - hell no.

To decide "bad drug" claims - hell no.

There's more to lawyering than figuring out who caused the dent in your pickup truck.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:07 pm to
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god damn those attorneys trying to keep you from getting burnt to a crisp!


instead........I'm an inch of dehydrating every fricking august. but.......I guess that will be another lawsuit and I will have to strap a fricking bottle of water around my head with a fricking tube that goes to my mouth at all times to prevent it. frick common sense.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92623 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:09 pm to
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I'm an inch of dehydrating every fricking august. but.......I guess that will be another lawsuit and I will have to strap a fricking bottle of water around my head with a fricking tube that goes to my mouth at all times to prevent it. frick common sense.


Sorry - this oldie but goodie image popped into my head. Should be a laugh for both sides of this issue:

Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14363 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:09 pm to
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instead........I'm an inch of dehydrating every fricking august. but.......I guess that will be another lawsuit and I will have to strap a fricking bottle of water around my head with a fricking tube that goes to my mouth at all times to prevent it. frick common sense.


Sounds like someone is butt hurt over getting an OSHA citation. Look you need to blame democratic socialist nanny staters for that more than lawyers. They are the ones who decided you needed to wear a safety harness every time you climb a ladder, etc.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
82846 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:10 pm to
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All this effort for very little to no tangible societal gain.


You say this with a straight face as you are currently living in the wealthiest, most powerful, and most technologically advanced society that ever existed?

trollololol
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25791 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:11 pm to
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frick common sense.


You seem well equipped to take that position.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
82846 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:12 pm to
Being that you are likely part of a large, multinational corporation that is most certainly under the purview of numerous state and federal workplace safety agencies, I'd imagine a lawyer (!) has specifically carved out a nice little water break for your fancy arse in some obscure federal regulation.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:13 pm to
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are you saying that a "common" person couldn't be a judge?


And when that person has done the job for years and becomes well versed in disputes and cases they would basically be attorneys.

Also imagine who writes the rules for these courts?
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:14 pm to
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You say this with a straight face as you are currently living in the wealthiest, most powerful, and most technologically advanced society that ever existed?




I would say that these accomplishments are in spite of an overly complex and bureaucratic legal system, not because of it. It's a system where people benefit a great deal from society while providing for it very little.

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