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re: Imagine a world without attorneys
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:15 pm to oldcharlie8
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:15 pm to oldcharlie8
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..I have to wear this ridiculously hot set of coveralls that are fire retardant because I'm fairly certain that companies got sued.
And probably because of OSHA.
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Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:15 pm to Ace Midnight
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So, basically mob rule? Yeah - attorneys get a bad rap, but they are the bulwark between a civil society and solving problems by "taking it outside" (or worse, pistols at dawn).
Pistols at dawn would actually make our society MORE civil. People hide behind the fact that it's illegal to beat that arse or challenge someone to a duel for their shitty behavior.
Bringing back duels would most certainly cause people to act right.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:16 pm to UpToPar
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And probably because of OSHA.
nice.......but.....would osha exist if there weren't attorneys to sue people?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:17 pm to oldcharlie8
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say that the judges were not attorneys and you represented yourself.
Sociopaths would rule the world.
Shy people, those with a fear of public speaking, those who have a past etc.... Would always lose. Always.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:19 pm to oldcharlie8
Sure they would. You think just because someone has to represent them self that people won't sue? The guy that gets burned alive at work is suing his employer whether he has an attorney or not. I'm confused, are you talking about a world without any liability or just a world without lawyers fighting over liability. Taking lawyers out of the equation doesn't mean there is no liability.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:19 pm to oldcharlie8
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.would osha exist if there weren't attorneys to sue people?
Yes. But it would be run by people who actually perform the jobs that they are keeping safe, not word smiths trying to use concise language and methods to safeguard against legal bullshite.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:20 pm to oldcharlie8
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sorta. what I really would like to know is how it would affect your daily life. for instance........I have to wear this ridiculously hot set of coveralls that are fire retardant because I'm fairly certain that companies got sued.
So your big beef is not that your ridiculously inflated paycheck(relative to your intelligence) is going to alimony or that you work your arse off(for higher pay than your intelligence deserves, mind you), have to pay child support and still don't see your retarded kids? You're perturbed because some folks put in place some standards for your safety? Am I getting this right, Charles?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:23 pm to LucasP
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I think he means a system where laws are clear enough to not require interpretation. Where average citizens could decipher their meaning, since they are the people supposedly served by those laws.
Good luck with trying to account for every variable in human existence.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:24 pm to oldcharlie8
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what I'm looking for are answers as to how would this world be different without all the lawsuits that have occurred and are occurring daily.
You'd live under a brutal totalitarian style government.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:25 pm to CunningLinguist
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Steve Avery would still be in jail because he definitely murdered Teresa Halbach
He's still there genius.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:26 pm to 1935 MBB Champions
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Darvacet drug would be available. My mother is perfect for darvacet, but because not everyone is perfect for darvacet the lawyers took it off the market and lawyers make my moms life suffer.
I'm sorry about your mom. That sucks. But perhaps your anger here is misplaced. "Lawyers" don't have the authority to take drugs off the market. They may represent an entity that values profit over people--your beef is likely with them. However, they likely developed the drug in the 1st place. Drugs don't make themselves, they aren't manna from Heaven and a God-given right. Except for marijuana. In that case, yeah, frick the lawyers.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:26 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:26 pm to oldcharlie8
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nice.......but.....would osha exist if there weren't attorneys to sue people?
So all attorneys sue people? You sound like you know a lot about the practice of law.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:27 pm to Antonio Moss
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You'd live under a brutal totalitarian style government
Lawyers, the only thing standing in the way of tyranny!
Please explain this fantastic romanticism of the law profession.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:27 pm to LucasP
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think he means a system where laws are clear enough to not require interpretation.
Literally impossible. It is the nature of human beings to question everything and find new and innovative ways of doing things.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:27 pm to Hot Carl
Full disclosure--I am not, have never been, and am not affiliated in any way with--an attorney. 
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:30 pm to Breesus
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Literally impossible.
This is a hypothetical thought experiment. I figured it was assumed to be impossible, like the John Lennon song.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:30 pm to LucasP
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Lawyers, the only thing standing in the way of tyranny!
Please explain this fantastic romanticism of the law profession.
The entire concept of limited government comes from the idea of law binding authoritative action. With no enforceable law, there exists no limitation on government action. With no right of petition (filing suit against government) there is no mechanism for enforcing such law besides revolt.
Western Civilization . . . its fascinating.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:31 pm to ThePoo
so... do we have water boarding witches?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:34 pm to LucasP
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Lawyers, the only thing standing in the way of tyranny! Please explain this fantastic romanticism of the law profession.
I don't think anyone is knighting for the noble profession of lawyering, but by definition you can't have "laws" without "lawyers." Someone has to make them, write them down, and interpret them. Whether it is their profession or not.
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