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re: If you believe in global warming/climate change, you've been duped.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:25 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:25 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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It is common knowledge that city dwellers use less resources.
no they dont. they individually do because they offload the cost of the other resources to the collective. that isnt lowering the expense of resources, it's BS accounting.
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climate change from burning fossil fuels. Urban areas might produce more aggregate CO2, but per capita is less.
so if johnny in the 3k a month 6th floor walkup doesnt use gas to go to the store, you dont count all the expense of fuel to bring the product to him....let alone the failure of the ecosystem services being overloaded.
Look, I know how they calculated the agenda 21 bs. it's bs.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:27 pm to CptBengal
So bringing product to rural areas doesn't count?
If you want to speak anecdotally, what about Joe farmer who gets 3 amazon packages a week dropped off on his door? Guess that Fedex truck doesn't burn gas right?
Do you have any facts or just funny stories?
If you want to speak anecdotally, what about Joe farmer who gets 3 amazon packages a week dropped off on his door? Guess that Fedex truck doesn't burn gas right?
Do you have any facts or just funny stories?
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:29 pm to WaWaWeeWa
His crops absorb more CO2 than the hippie city dweller.
Thank god for the farmer. Science
Thank god for the farmer. Science
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:31 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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So bringing product to rural areas doesn't count?
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Guess that Fedex truck doesn't burn gas right?
if you think gasoline in vehicles is a huge problem you're so misinformed you have no idea what you're talking about.
literally none.
You do realize when they say "fossil fuel combustion" it is actually power plant generation...for electricity...that accounts for between 80 - 90 percent of the CO2 emissions, right?
I mean this is hilarious, you have a new alter and are copy/pastaing again to try and get something right. Good luck.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:48 pm to CptBengal
First of all, i replied with an anecdotal story about a fedex truck to point out how idiotic your first point was, not because I believe a story like that is actually evidence. Wish I could say the same for you.
Which is exactly why I qouted the amount of BTU's used by rural vs urban dwellers from the U.S. Energy Information Administration
But i'm open to hearing your opinion if you can back up what you are saying with more than your gut feeling
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You do realize when they say "fossil fuel combustion" it is actually power plant generation...for electricity...that accounts for between 80 - 90 percent of the CO2 emissions, right?
Which is exactly why I qouted the amount of BTU's used by rural vs urban dwellers from the U.S. Energy Information Administration
But i'm open to hearing your opinion if you can back up what you are saying with more than your gut feeling
Posted on 2/13/17 at 10:53 pm to CptBengal
Not to mention. Spreading people out goes against every intuition on how to make society more efficient. Why would you make millions of people travel individually to acquire a resource when you could bring the resource to the millions of people? This is basic stuff
If cities are so inefficient, why do they continue to grow? Why does 80% of the US population live in urban areas?
If cities are so inefficient, why do they continue to grow? Why does 80% of the US population live in urban areas?
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:10 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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CptBengal
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WaWaWeeWa
Guys, there's a sonic like right down the street from my place. Whenever you're ready, just say the word.
Or there's a holiday inn if you just want to frick and get it over with.
Either way, Mir will be there as the official knuckle inspector
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:12 pm to Fatty Magoo
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Mir will be there as the official knuckle inspector
I am OSHA certified to inspect knuckles
I'm the blonde with a facial scar and an LSU t-shirt drinking 40s in the parking lot
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:15 pm to bbvdd
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:29 pm to WaWaWeeWa
I do water quality shite for a living. I can with 100% certainty tell you that the degradation of overall water quality in rural areas pales in comparison to that of a city. Impervious areas are the driving factor. Vegetation is remarkably good at nutrient uptake and recycling as well as filtering out pollutants before they reach recharge areas.
A city is basically just one enormous fricking point source discharge and the deleterious effects impact entire watersheds. This will improve over time as bioretention and other "green" (smart) infrastructure takes place.. but that costs money and progress is slow.
Agricultural areas contribute heavy nutrient loads to streams.. and that's bad.. and they also tend to frick shite up via agriculture. Ironically.. the commercial Ag. exists to support the cities.. and I'd attribute that injury to the city and not the farmer. Farmers and Ag people catch shite from me all the time but it's because they are backwards and flaunt their protection.. not because they are a main source of pollution. Take a look at your states 303(d) list and then look at their NPDES permits statistics over the last 10 years or so.. (a good indicator of overall impervious area).. and you really won't be able to disagree.
A city is basically just one enormous fricking point source discharge and the deleterious effects impact entire watersheds. This will improve over time as bioretention and other "green" (smart) infrastructure takes place.. but that costs money and progress is slow.
Agricultural areas contribute heavy nutrient loads to streams.. and that's bad.. and they also tend to frick shite up via agriculture. Ironically.. the commercial Ag. exists to support the cities.. and I'd attribute that injury to the city and not the farmer. Farmers and Ag people catch shite from me all the time but it's because they are backwards and flaunt their protection.. not because they are a main source of pollution. Take a look at your states 303(d) list and then look at their NPDES permits statistics over the last 10 years or so.. (a good indicator of overall impervious area).. and you really won't be able to disagree.
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 2/13/17 at 11:31 pm to Fatty Magoo
I left my wallet at home can you spot me a chili cheese dog combo?
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:01 am to Fatty Magoo
I haven't read all of the bullshite in this thread. Climate change is cyclical. If you think otherwise, you should be living like the Amish, or STFU.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:04 am to ByteMe
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I haven't read all of the bullshite in this thread. Climate change is cyclical. If you think otherwise, you should be living like the
I'm going with Mongolian nomad instead because fricking Hawks bro
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:09 am to ByteMe
Oh, cool, we finally got a climate scientist to chime in! Excellent, I've been waiting for some knowledge to drop in this mother fricker.
Oh wait, what's that? You're not a scientist? You're just spouting your opinion with no factual basis or evidence provided to back it up?
Sooo everyone should share your opinion or STFu?
Or wait.,. We could be Amish. Forgot about that one. So it's either completely embrace technology and industry, with no regard whatsoever to any ecological impact. Or, completely give up on all technology past like 1850. Yeah, that makes sense. Definitely no chance there's a middle ground here.
Got it. Thanks for your thoughtful and insightful addendum to the discussion.
Now go shut the frick up. My tater tots are getting cold.
Oh wait, what's that? You're not a scientist? You're just spouting your opinion with no factual basis or evidence provided to back it up?
Sooo everyone should share your opinion or STFu?
Or wait.,. We could be Amish. Forgot about that one. So it's either completely embrace technology and industry, with no regard whatsoever to any ecological impact. Or, completely give up on all technology past like 1850. Yeah, that makes sense. Definitely no chance there's a middle ground here.
Got it. Thanks for your thoughtful and insightful addendum to the discussion.
Now go shut the frick up. My tater tots are getting cold.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:10 am to Mir
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Mongolian nomad
Dude their hawk game is so on point
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:11 am to Fatty Magoo
And Mongolian throat singing is legiiiiit
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:18 am to Mir
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I'm going with Mongolian nomad instead because fricking Hawks bro
These pussy arse people couldn't be Mongolian Nomads. They wouldn't even last 2 days with the Amish...No internet, no way to complain about how evil the US is.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:20 am to ByteMe
What the frick you mean by "these people"
You should thank your lucky stars the sonic closed at midnight.
You should thank your lucky stars the sonic closed at midnight.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 12:24 am
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