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re: I feel like P0rnhub's days might be numbered...
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:07 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:07 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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You realize that whole “college chick on spring break”
Sure sure.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:15 pm to TheRouxGuru
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She listed all the places she was trafficked to. Mentioned NYC and the east coast but then said all her videos were filmed in a warehouse in cali
That’s not really what it says:
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The first recording was made in a garage in Maryland in or about 2001-2002 when Jane Doe No. 1 was 10 years old.
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She was trafficked by this man and his organization in various states along the East Coast, and was forced to provide escort services and film pornographic videos and livestreams. The videos were produced in various warehouses.
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Jane Doe No. 1 is aware of at least seven explicit videos of her on Pornhub between 2011 and 2016, as well as at least one recording from a livestream. The videos were filmed in warehouses in multiple locations in California. The seven videos were uploaded multiple times on Pornhub.
It says the videos from 2011-2016 were recorded in warehouses in California.
I found the full complaint here. There are a ton of allegations against Pornhub (more specifically, against parent company MindGeek) in the complaint. Chief among those allegations:
- That MindGeek (Pornhub) went out of their way to avoid eliminating child pornography and non-consensual content.
- That MindGeek purchased content directly from traffickers and tried to disguise it as “user-submitted.”
- That MindGeek keeps content on its servers even after it is removed for being illegal, and often re-uploads the same content disguised as user submissions.
- That MindGeek’s “content moderation” team actually exists to edit tagging for search engine optimization and remove words/phrases that indicate content is illegal, without removing the content itself.
- That MindGeek, as a whole, is a mafia-style criminal racket tied up in money laundering and illegal arms dealing, among other things.
There is one named plaintiff and there are 33 unnamed plaintiffs. All of the unnamed plaintiffs are identified as “victims of sex trafficking, and 13 of them are identified as “victims of child sex trafficking.”
Some of the allegations are pretty sickening, TBH.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:19 pm to tigerinthebueche
There are a lot of women who enjoy watching porn. Just as much as men do. There are also a lot of women directors who direct and produce it - catering directly to women and their fantasies.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:33 pm to lostinbr
Some of the more disturbing allegations regarding child pornography:
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211. Indeed, to this day, one can run internet searches for known CSAM/child pornography or other non-consensual content that was ordered taken down by NCMEC or otherwise and the search will bring you to Pornhub even though that video is not enable. MindGeek’s algorithm will then direct you to similar non-disabled content.
212. Much worse, according to multiple insiders, MindGeek systematically and surreptitiously would reupload all content that it had been forced to disable back to the system and do so in a manner in which it appeared to have been reuploaded by independent users and which circumvented MindGeek’s purported systems for identifying previously disabled videos. This is the reason why so many victims reported that even when they successfully got videos disabled, the same videos would be reuploaded again and again.
213. One eyewitness to this process, explained that caches of disabled content “would be provided to employees on disks and they would be instructed to reupload those videos from non-MindGeek computers using specific email addresses that would allow the uploads to bypass MindGeek’s purported ‘fingerprinting’ of removed videos. . . . They say they kept the stuff on the servers to cooperate with authorities but it was really so they could reupload.”
214. MindGeek has stated publicly and repeatedly that it retains on its servers all videos ever uploaded onto its tubesites. This no doubt is necessary for its reuploading practice. MindGeek, therefore, has throughout its existence illegally possessed CSAM/child pornography, and reuploaded that CSAM/child pornography innumerable times. Indeed, MindGeek, with duplicative servers in the United States and Canada (among other locations) is likely the largest non-regulatory repository of CSAM/child pornography in North America.
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217. Despite admitted possession of massive amounts of child pornography, until 2020, MindGeek never voluntarily made a single legally required disclosure to authorities in the United States or Canada about that material under either countries’ CSAM/child pornography laws. MindGeek failed to do so even when its possession has been publicly reported. For example, in 2019, 58 videos of a 15-year who was beaten and raped were posted on Pornhub. These videos were ultimately removed, but as per the testimony of NCMEC during Canada’s parliamentary investigation, MindGeek had never reported any instances of child sexual abuse to NCMEC as required by federal law or reported to NCMEC’s counterpart under Canadian law until late 2020.
218. Likewise, in 2020 two videos of child pornography – one involving a toddler in diapers being abused and another of a pre-pubescent girl being anally raped – were located on Pornhub. After multiple reports MindGeek notified those flagging it that it the video had been disabled, fingerprinted, and reported to NCMEC. But according to NCMEC’s own testimony, it was not reported to NCMEC. Two months later the same two videos were discovered back up on the site, uploaded by two separate purposed user accounts. Investigators submitted takedown requests to Pornhub that were ignored. It was not taken down until it was reported to the FBI, the FBI notified NCMEC, and NCMEC issued a takedown order to Pornhub. One reupload remained up for almost two weeks after the initial takedown requests and had over 20,000 views and an unknown number of downloads. Even after it was removed MindGeek left the title, tags, views and url live to continue driving traffic to the site using the child rape video.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:39 pm to lostinbr
Pretty sickening if true. Curious what is actually going on when you have a website worth billions and you are potentially do all this crap.
My guess is they're being paid and/or threatened by the bad actors to keep the content on the site so they don't personally have it
My guess is they're being paid and/or threatened by the bad actors to keep the content on the site so they don't personally have it
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:49 pm to Deactived
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93. According to whistleblowers with first-hand knowledge, the MindGeek Criminal Enterprise is run exactly like an organized crime family: “It’s just like the Sopranos,” described one insider. At the head of that crime family is Feras Antoon, the CEO of the company. Feras Antoon and his select group of “made” men at MindGeek refer to themselves as the “Bro-Club.” Bro-Club membership comes with the opportunity to make substantial monies participating in the Enterprise’s criminal activities. Indeed, as one person close to members of the Bro-Club explained, “[t]he only thing that mattered was how much money can you bring into the enterprise. That was the only metric for your advancement. Similar to what you see in Sopranos.”
94. The Bro-Club is comprised of members of Antoon’s extended family from Canada, Lebanon, and Syria and a select few additional “made” members. “All top executives were members of the Bro-Club, and most Syrian or Lebanese relations of Antoon,” according to one whistleblower.
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98. The Bro-Club “capos” also included some who had previously formed successful tubesites or porn advertising companies that were sold to or otherwise partnered with MindGeek. Although teaming with MindGeek meant these individuals needed to share their revenues, they joined the Enterprise nevertheless “to cover your arse and be on safe ground” because, per an insider,quote:
it provided protection from overseas folks who are bad guys involved in bad stuff. People were really scared about their lives because the groups providing content for their sites were real pimps. If you are running your own site and you know these pimps might do harm to you, you join Tony Soprano’s team. Make less money but no one will shoot you in the street.
The “pimps” being referred to were the known traffickers in Eastern Europe and Asia from whom the Enterprise and those who typically joined it bought substantial pornography.
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110. From its birth, the Enterprise now known as MindGeek was awash in criminality. That criminality manifested itself almost immediately in law enforcement investigations in Europe and the United States. In the late 2000’s, the United States was investigating MindGeek (then Mansef) for money laundering and arms dealing. In 2009, the Secret Service seized $6.4 million from the company’s bank accounts and those of its then nominal owners as a result.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:54 pm to lostinbr
Pretty much sounds like the mafia.
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