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re: How much longer before Doctors are obsolete?
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:08 am to mydadpulledout
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:08 am to mydadpulledout
I agree that surgeons will probably be around for awhile. But I think we're talking about primary care doctors, mostly diagnoses. There's no way a human doctor can compete with a machine in that regard.
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Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:10 am to mydadpulledout
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When a patient comes into the ER from a MVA and needs extensive surgery for all of their injuries, I don't see a robot having the finesse to accurately fix a humans body. You can program it to do a certain thing but no two people are exactly alike.
yeah TODAY. This thread isn't about today. It's about some distant time in the future assuming the rise of tech continues at its current pace.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:12 am to LucasP
there are already automated machines out-performing surgeons for certain surgeries. Imagine what that will be like in 50 years.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:17 am to LucasP
Who would've thought that lawyers might be our saving grace from a world removed from human production and decision...even still..I might just be inevitable and machines and technology are just and always was the next step in evolution. In 15 years...AI will perform just about all task better the humans with no breaks or wage demands. The table has been getting set for years and years for this inevidibility. From patriot act to NDAA and Obamacare. Old money rules the world.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:19 am to Bunta
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I don't even go to the doctor, I just use WebMD. I've already recovered from cancer, ebola, and an assortment of hard to spell diseases.
I may be wrong, but doesn't all of the information on WebMD come from doctors? So indirectly you still use doctors and they are not obsolete in this case.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:22 am to dreaux
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Who would've thought that lawyers might be our biggest speed bump preventing a world free from human toils and suffering from their own incompetence?
We have very different outlooks on the future. Mostly because my outlook ends question with question marks, but there's other differences too.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:22 am to theunknownknight
You're oversimplifying medicine. It is one of the more complicated jobs in existence. Automation is going to eliminate the vast majority of other jobs before doctors go extinct.
It is more likely that man and robot will work together. In 15 years, you'll still have a human doctor telling you that you are too fat and drink too much. And you'll likely still ignore him and complain about your back hurting.
It is more likely that man and robot will work together. In 15 years, you'll still have a human doctor telling you that you are too fat and drink too much. And you'll likely still ignore him and complain about your back hurting.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:24 am to dreaux
Who really believes humans will be chosen over vastly superior machines simply because "they need a job and have to do something..????? Lol. We're like fricking roaches to these people.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:25 am to theunknownknight
What automated machines are out performing surgeons in surgery? If you are talking about the robots in surgery I don't think you understand how those work. They are only a tool that can do nothing without a surgeon controlling them. They have no AI. They are only used because the arms can articulate better than the current laparoscopic equipment.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:25 am to theunknownknight
Not until AI is sentient
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:26 am to Blob Fish
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You're oversimplifying medicine. It is one of the more complicated jobs in existence. Automation is going to eliminate the vast majority of other jobs before doctors go extinct.
No I'm not. I chose doctors in this thread for two reasons:
1. Because medicine is complicated
2. It will be the FIRST thing all investors (other than military) will really be racing to automate because it will bring the most money and control.
I am not denying other jobs will go first - in fact, I am presupposing it.
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It is more likely that man and robot will work together. In 15 years, you'll still have a human doctor telling you that you are too fat and drink too much. And you'll likely still ignore him and complain about your back hurting.
Sure. In 15. What about 50?
This post was edited on 6/30/16 at 7:33 am
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:28 am to theunknownknight
The best hope for young kids today is working in the field of computer programming and diagnostics
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:28 am to Blob Fish
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You're oversimplifying medicine. It is one of the more complicated jobs in existence.
You're underestimating the capabilities of modern algorithms. here's a neat story about it
But yeah this is already starting to happen. And I'm pretty sure a robot can tell me I'm fat.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:29 am to dreaux
Those fields will obviously be around forever.
Unless
The machines fix and build the machines.
Then...we fricked lol
Unless
The machines fix and build the machines.
Then...we fricked lol
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:32 am to dreaux
Id like to see a robot tell a person they have cancer and 6 months to live. The robot then says there's no point in treatment because you'll only live an extra 2 months and it's not approving the use of the treatment bc of some algorithm that doesn't factor in a human's ability to hope or that extra time spent with family.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:32 am to dreaux
God damn the future is TERRIFYING lol...I mean everything wants to control us or wants us DEAD. food shortages, super bugs and on and on.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:33 am to theunknownknight
Machines will replace doctors whenever their creator is confident enough to accept malpractice liability, and patients become worth a shite at accurately documenting their medical history.
Machines can't work if their input is shite. And right now, patients give shite input for the most part.
Machines can't work if their input is shite. And right now, patients give shite input for the most part.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:33 am to Jizzy08
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some algorithm that doesn't factor in a human's ability to hope or that extra time spent with family.
Why would an algorithm not factor that in?
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:35 am to Jizzy08
Hey man...I'm with you. I'm going to tell you something. We are exactly at the point DAMN NEAR where there is just about not a DAMN thing we could do about it. If everyone decided right now they've had enough...one flip of a switch and we're all in the dark with NOTHING.
COOL
COOL
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:37 am to Bunta
Perfect website to make people believe a stubbed toe is a brain aneurysm
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