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re: How long until the state of Louisiana decides to legalize marijuana?
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:36 am to Barrister
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:36 am to Barrister
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How long until the state of Louisiana decides to legalize marijuana?
They will do it right after they ban gay marriage. Definitely not before this happens.
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:37 am to fishfighter
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I wouldn't want a doctor high doing open heart surgery on me nor a coworker operating a overhead crane working above me. There is NO room for someone high in the work place or driving.
Because workplaces keep breathalyzers now to tell on the spot if someone is drunk?
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:38 am to CptRusty
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I am all for legalizing weed (and all drugs for that matter), but I definitely see the "public safety" side of the argument. I don't want to be sharing the road with people who are impaired, whether that means drunk or high.
I understand this argument from a moral standpoint and agree in principle. However, most pot smokers that are inclined to smoke and drive are already doing so. Do you believe that this is a practical objection against legalization or just feel-good stuff? These folks are already on the road.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:39 am to Errerrerrwere
The power to arrest/jail fine and extort people through probation payouts is beyond immense for the courthouse gang. They will do everything in their power to hold onto it.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:44 am to gmoney504
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Does your boss keep a breathalyzer at work?
The whole office has literally been called into a conference room and the entire staff breathalyzed. Of course I work in an engineering practice where the outcome of severe mistakes would be people getting injured or killed. So to answer your question, yes.
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Millions of people smoke now and there's not a problem with people causing wrecks because they were driving while high
Plenty of people drive drunk and don't cause wrecks too, but it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
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It's not like everyone who used to smoke is just going to decide hey lets drive while high now
If there's no law against it people will do it.
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studies have shown its not nearly as dangerous as driving drunk or texting while driving
I'm sure it's not, but being high impairs your judgement, reactions, and reflexes, which are dangerous to yourself (which I don't care about) and others (which I do!) on the road.
Just like if I have one beer, I'm fine to drive, but if I have fifth of tequila I probably shouldn't...if I'm a little high it probably isn't a big deal to drive, but if I'm stoned to the bone maybe it would be an issue.
I feel like this is a no brainer, common sense compromise. Legalize drugs, but don't use them while driving or when your decision making can affect the safety of others. Is that really asking too much?
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:47 am to CptRusty
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I feel like this is a no brainer, common sense compromise. Legalize drugs, but don't use them while driving or when your decision making can affect the safety of others. Is that really asking too much?
I'm not advocating that it should be legal to drive while high, I'm saying that legalization won't all of the sudden cause people to start driving high and causing wrecks.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:47 am to northshorebamaman
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Do you believe that this is a practical objection against legalization or just feel-good stuff? These folks are already on the road.
I don't think it's an objection to legalization at all, I'm simply stating that if it were legal we would need a method to determine if someone was high so we could maintain the safety of public roads the same way that we do now.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:49 am to gmoney504
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I'm saying that legalization won't all of the sudden cause people to start driving high and causing wrecks.
OK, so it sounds like you agree with me then.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:58 am to CptRusty
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I'm simply stating that if it were legal we would need a method to determine if someone was high so we could maintain the safety of public roads the same way that we do now.
I agree. The only problem I have with that is that the test won't tell the whole story. I regularly smoke the finest pot known to man, here in the PNW, and its effect on me is analogous to half a Xanax for most people. But I do recognize that it was my personal choice to partake. The kinks definitely need to be worked out.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:00 am to CptRusty
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maintain the safety of public roads the same way that we do now.
Do the laws keep people from driving drunk? Not hardly, they allow us to punish and fine those who do, and I imagine only a fraction are even caught. Laws don't stop people from doing anything!
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:01 am to northshorebamaman
Exactly. There would need to be a standard of THC concentration that is deemed the legal limit. Just like Alcohol. I'm not a chemist so I don't know if it's THC or some other chemical, or a whole plethora of them that would need to be tested, but again I don't think it's that complicated or different that the laws we already have in place.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:04 am to Strannix
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Laws don't stop people from doing anything!
They are a deterrent, to a certain degree. Laws give society legal recourse to pursue punishment against people who break them.
I fully understand what you are saying, but it's not as simple as saying "laws don't do anything, therefore we shouldn't bother having any!"
They are a deterrent, and if nothing else, provide a legal framework for holding people accountable for their actions.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:11 am to nolanola
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I think much sooner than this. I think all of a sudden the entire country will start coming around on this.
Not unless the makeup of the LA House and Senate changes significantly. Some of the arguments presented yesterday against SB271 were reefer madness fueled silliness, and these are the folks voting on it. Legislators like Dan Claitor, Daniel Martiny, and Francis Thompson must be voted out.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 7:21 am
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:11 am to CptRusty
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CptRusty
This is gonna come across as a 'gotcha' but how do you square the fact that you have a sig image of a cigar (I'm an avid cigar smoker BTW), which has demonstrably and directly killed people, with your belief that MJ should be illegal, which hasn't directly killed anyone?
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:13 am to northshorebamaman
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with your belief that MJ should be illegal,
my what? I am a strong legalization advocate, all I'm pointing out is that in order to sell the idea to the public there will have to be some nanny state "safeguards" built into the legislation.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:15 am to CptRusty
My bad. Been up all night. Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:16 am to northshorebamaman
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My bad. Been up all night.
No doubt smoking the reefer and fornicating!
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:17 am to CptRusty
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No doubt smoking the reefer and fornicating!
One of them, at least.
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:19 am to CptRusty
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all I'm pointing out is that in order to sell the idea to the public there will have to be some nanny state "safeguards" built into the legislation.
and there obviously would be
and if weed was made legal everywhere, there would be an arms race for the technology to be developed to detect THC limits like a breathalyzer
that would be a billion dollar technology, I have no doubt with the incentive it would be made
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:28 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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I don't try to justify anything. I just want to get stoned legally.
I'd rather my drug of choice to be illegal, gives me an edge. Makes me feel like I'm sticking it to the man.
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