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re: How do you feel about spanking children?

Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:54 am to
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hey had ever been pushed, grabbed, shoved, slapped or hit


This seems to imply that the parents were sometimes beating their children. My parents never beat me. They did occasionally spank me.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:54 am to
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It is a similar tool to spanking.


Telling someone to run in a circle is similar to hitting a kid?

Interesting
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:56 am to
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Telling someone to run in a circle is similar to hitting a kid?

No, but similar to spanking one.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:56 am to
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My parents never beat me.


quote:

They did occasionally spank me


Striking a child with your hand is spanking. I didn't say punching. I said hitting.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:56 am to
It's really not. At all.

And very disingenuous to insinuate that.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:57 am to
Spanking is defined as “hitting a child on the bottom with an open hand”
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:58 am to
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Striking a child with your hand is spanking. I didn't say punching. I said hitting.


So when I give my son a high five or fist bump, I am hitting my kid?

Your attempts to hyperbolize may make you feel good about your argument, but it doesn't offer anything meaningful to the discussion.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:58 am to
The point is that it is obviously lumping it all together. Hence showing the flaw of the study.

Your argument would also hold a lot more water if you could provide a better argument for why the other studies misrepresent the situation other than calling them "bullshite."
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:59 am to
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And very disingenuous to insinuate that.


LOL

and you comparing spanking to an act of violence isn't?
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 10:59 am to
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Spanking is defined as “hitting a child on the bottom with an open hand”

Yes, but you are attempting to exaggerate what spanking is by calling it hitting a child. Spanking is more specific than that.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:00 am to
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It's really not. At all.

And very disingenuous to insinuate that.
Why not? I gave the reasons it was somewhat similar. Tell why it isn't?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:08 am to
Look I'm clearly not going to change your minds.

I'm sure you were spanked as a child so if it was good enough for you, it's good enough for your kid.

But I find this is like arguing with the anti vaccine crowd. Or climate change deniers. Not changing your mind.

But hopefully some thought is put into the discipline of your kid
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:09 am to
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But I find this is like arguing with the anti vaccine crowd. Or climate change deniers. Not changing your mind.


oh please

Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:10 am to
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But I find this is like arguing with the anti vaccine crowd.
Me too, but with you being the anti vaccine contingent.

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But hopefully some thought is put into the discipline of your kid
Very much so.

And to your's, though you sound like someone who doesn't have any yet.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:11 am to
Actually, I have no set opinions on the subject. I just liked seeing the argument fleshed out.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:15 am to
Spanking involves the learned misrecognition of injury as education.

What do we want to teach our children?

Spanking teaches kids that hitting is an acceptable response to anger. Showing the next generation how to manage rage without violence is a critical life skill.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:17 am to
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Spanking teaches kids that hitting is an acceptable response to anger.


That is why you don't spank your children out of anger

Several posters have already stated this, but you choose to ignore it because it doesn't fit your argument

quote:

Showing the next generation how to manage rage without violence


Why do you continue to use hyperbole for your argument?
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:17 am to
dp
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:18 am to
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Spanking teaches kids that hitting is an acceptable response to anger.


What if you're not angry?
Posted by hardhead
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Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:18 am to
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Spanking teaches kids that hitting is an acceptable response to anger


just don't make little head mad

you might get dealt with
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