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re: How do Creationists reconcile discoveries that date back hundreds of millions of years

Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:46 pm to
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I want observable evidence of a change of kind.



35% Of all humans are born with no wisdom teeth. there you go all the observable evidence you need right there.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:49 pm to
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Well I guess you need to try to live for a long fricking time to observe one group of animal offsprings split and eventually through generations you'll have two animals you consider different "kinds", I don't know what to tell you.


Say you can’t do it and you need to have faith to believe in the evolution religion. Admit this and we can move on.

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Saying things didn't happen cause it takes longer than the life of a human


I just quoted the scientific method definition. That is science.

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You want an immediate "change of kind" as proof of evolution when everyone here has told you that isn't what evolution says happens.


This raises into question if ever happened. It is a strange theory.

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All we can try to provide is what evolution actually claims.


Evolution claims monkeys turned into humans. Of course not a single person in the history of mankind has witnessed anything like this ever happening. Evolution is plain ridiculous.




Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7755 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:50 pm to
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Evolution claims monkeys turned into humans.


No it doesn't this is a flat out lie
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6279 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:50 pm to
Here we go with the "Scientific theory" again. Its a theory and that is all.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:51 pm to
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Nope, DNA evidence pretty much summed it all up years ago. No faith or belief system needed.


DNA evidence does not support evolution. Failed again.

Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:51 pm to
Not believing in evolution will soon be equivalent to believing the earth is flat or the center of the universe.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:52 pm to
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DNA evidence does not support evolution. Failed again.





Yeah... OK troll.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:53 pm to
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3) There is no evidence of evolution at the molecular level. Even with DNA sequence data, we have no direct access to the processes of evolution, so objective reconstruction of the vanished past can be achieved only by creative imagination (N.A. Takahata, Genetic Perspective on the Origin and History of Humans - Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics; vol 26, 1995, p34). DNA and other genetic evidence as proof of evolution are found to be inconsistent with the fossil record and comparative morphology of the creatures.


Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:55 pm to
Failed on DNA too buddy.


It’s great watching your evolution theory fall flat on it’s face.



Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:57 pm to
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Here we go with the "Scientific theory" again. Its a theory and that is all.



There seems to be quite a number of patterns in this thread that people that align themselves with creationism seem to have an almost aggressive posture in wanting to remain ignorant to facts and context.

Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:58 pm to
When you actually learn what evolution is, come back. I'm not going to argue anymore about what it is not.
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6279 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:59 pm to
Are you stating that a theory is fact? Talk about ignorance. Maybe you should read up on the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 1:00 pm to
Evolution is nothing without a great imagination.

Zero observable evidence.
No DNA evidence.
No fossil evidence.


Just a crazy theory that is false.



Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 1:01 pm to
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NATidefan


You believe fish become philosophers.

This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Are you stating that a theory is fact? Talk about ignorance. Maybe you should read up on the 2nd law of thermodynamics.




I'm not sure how much more clear to make this?

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A scientific theory is a structured explanation to explain a group of facts or phenomena in the natural world that often incorporates a scientific hypothesis and scientific laws. The scientific definition of a theory contrasts with the definition most people use in casual language.

"The way that scientists use the word 'theory' is a little different than how it is commonly used in the lay public," said Jaime Tanner, a professor of biology at Emerson College in Boston.

"Most people use the word 'theory' to mean an idea or hunch that someone has, but in science the word 'theory' refers to the way that we interpret facts."



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Furthermore, a scientific theory is the framework for observations and facts, Tanner said. Theories may change, or the way that they are interpreted may change, but the facts themselves don't change. Tanner likens theories to a basket in which scientists keep facts and observations that they find. The shape of that basket may change as the scientists learn more and include more facts. "For example, we have ample evidence of traits in populations becoming more or less common over time (evolution), so evolution is a fact, but the overarching theories about evolution, the way that we think all of the facts go together might change as new observations of evolution are made," Tanner told Live Science.



Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7755 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 1:34 pm to
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fact?


Science doesn't deal in facts. There is not one thing in Science that is considered a fact. That is why terms like scientific theories and scientific laws exist. Science has always left open the possibility of new evidence changing modern thinking. Right now though in this moment there is nothing that has even close to the amount of evidence that evolution does on how life on this planet developed over time.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7755 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 1:34 pm to
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You believe fish become philosophers.


making stuff up again literally no one has said this or anything even close to this
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11510 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 1:35 pm to
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He compulsively responded to the person he made the statement to? I think you're lying, but more likely you're just so fired up you are missing context.

Try not to be quite as big of a twat as the guy he was actually speaking to, if possible.

We've got another one
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36469 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 1:40 pm to
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To beerJeep no.


Awww. Bible boy got his fee fees hurt?
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:04 pm to
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making stuff up again literally no one has said this or anything even close to this


Evolution believes human ancestors were fish.


Evolution is ridiculous fake nonsense.
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