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re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:47 pm to Centinel
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:47 pm to Centinel
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You have yet to answer why mass shootings have become frequent only in the past 20 or so years
I never pretended to know why.
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Confiscate every single gun in this country, and nothing will change.
So you're saying our violent, murderous nature IS American Exceptionalism. It's not just hat we have opportunity, it's that we're just that much more barbarous than every other country.
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We'll just get much, much more of this:
You're speculating, you don't actually know that - just like the liberals who say it would all be better of we removed all the guns. They're speculating, and don't really know that.
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You people don't get it.
"You people"? Gun owners, you mean? I do admit that I have been carrying concealed without a permit more and more recently.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:47 pm to BRL79
He said much more difficult he didnt say impossible
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:49 pm to Taxing Authority
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Freedom is not barbaric.
Mass murder of school children is.
Not doing anything about mass murdering of school children is also barbaric.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:50 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Yep, I've been hearing that for almost 25 years, and yet we still have the mass murders. We simply don't want to do what it takes to solve the problem. We'd obviously rather live with all the mass murders. It's barbaric.
Because the problem at HOME has been rectified ! If anything, it gets worse every year.
Riddle me this, you say "we simply don't want to do what it takes to solve the problem", so what needs to be done. Your statement gives indication that you have a remedy, so inquiring minds want to know......what needs to be done ? HOW WOULD YOU FIX THE PROBLEM ?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:50 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Not doing anything about mass murdering of school children is also barbaric.
What do you propose we do about it?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:51 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Not the result of too much freedom. Hard fail.
Mass murder of school children is.
quote:We could completely end it. Lock everyone in their house. Good thing that's not barbaric.
Not doing anything about mass murdering of school children is also barbaric.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:53 pm to Buck Wylde
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A of of the issues we have today stem from the decline of a strong, 2 parent family. We have also taken God out of everything. The kids and even a lot of adults have become social media zombies, the media lies to us at every turn.
Other places have also moved away from traditional 2-parent families. Other places have also given up on God - many more than we have. Indeed, the US is seen as one of the more Christian of the developed nations. People all over the world have also become social media zombies. So we're not that much different from people in other countries, yet we are murderous and they are not.
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The world has become a cesspool and when that happens, this is the kind of shite you get.
So when the WORLD becomes a cesspool, mass murder goes up - but only in the US?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:54 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I never pretended to know why.
Don't you think that's something we might want to take a look in to?
Guns didn't change. Our society did. Why? And how do we fix it? That should be the focus. Yet no one wants to do this. Instead everyone just wants to make easy, token gestures that don't do shite to address the problem...because that would be hard.
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So you're saying our violent, murderous nature IS American Exceptionalism. It's not just hat we have opportunity, it's that we're just that much more barbarous than every other country.
No. We are not a violent nation. Only a small segment is, and primarily from one type of urban culture. I'll let you figure the rest of that one out.
Don't you think with more guns than people in this country if we were all barbaric there would be gun battles in the streets 24/7? Yet that doesn't happen.
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You're speculating, you don't actually know that
It's not really speculation, because the issue isn't the tool being used. It's the increasing number of people doing it. You've already ignored one example of why. Tsarnev made the cover of Rolling Stones, and he didn't even use a gun.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:55 pm to fallguy_1978
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What do you propose we do about it?
Like I've been saying the whole time ITT, get used to it because we don't want to do what's necessary to even figure out how to change it much less change it.
So either get used to it, or leave.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:55 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Other places have also moved away from traditional 2-parent families.
Some of the most ive seen on here lately we do seem to struggle in regards to 1 parent households compared to other countries. Somebody posted that our percent was as high as 25% compared to mexico at like 10%? and canada at 15
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:56 pm to Centinel
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No. We are not a violent nation. Only a small segment is, and primarily from one type of urban culture. I'll let you figure the rest of that one out.
Mass shootings, as horrific as they are, account for less than 1% of murder victims every year
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:57 pm to fallguy_1978
The topic is on how to fix mass shooter phenomenons
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:58 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Equating freedom and murdering school children is silly and pathetic.
Mass murder of school children is.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:58 pm to Taxing Authority
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Mass murder of school children is.
Not the result of too much freedom. Hard fail.
I never said it was - so hard fail right back at you.
I said mass murder of school children is barbaric.
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We could completely end it. Lock everyone in their house.
Is that how they do it in civilized countries?
Why are you pretending that we aren't the only developed country that experiences this murderous phenomenon?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:59 pm to Greace
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The topic is on how to fix mass shooter phenomenons
And the first step is to find out why they only became more frequent in the past twenty years. You agree?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:01 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Why are you pretending that we aren't the only developed country that experiences this murderous phenomenon?
You cherry pick an occurrence that accounts for less than 1% of all murders in this country as the example why this country is barbaric, completely ignoring where and why the majority of other murders occur. The where and why both missing from most other developed nations.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:02 pm to Greace
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mexico at like 10%
To be fair, I wouldn't compare the US to a Catholic country where divorce is against their religion.
The UK has a similar single-parent household rate to ours, yet they're mass murder rate is much lower.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:02 pm to Centinel
Not sure that is actually able to be figured out. You cant exactly just interview these people and ask why they did what they did. So why not start to take steps to make it harder for these people to acquire the weapons they use to perform them?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:02 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Like I've been saying the whole time ITT, get used to it because we don't want to do what's necessary to even figure out how to change it much less change it.
So either get used to it, or leave.
Well, you aren't removing guns from American society in any meaningful way so your options would be to further fortify soft targets or determine a better way to identify these people ahead of time.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:03 pm to Greace
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So why not start to take steps to make it harder for these people to acquire the weapons they use to perform them?
Because you're not addressing the problem.
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